--Attending non-Muslims's Funeral ...

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*Originally posted by Swera: *

& how do I know u r saying is all right?
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From the holy Quran:

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Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; **surely Allah loves the doers of justice.* *

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Allah only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of (your) religion, and drove you forth from your homes and backed up (others) in your expulsion, that you make friends with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are the unjust.*

Hope this answers your question.

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^ It didn't!

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*Originally posted by Swera: *

It’s reported that the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, stood with respect at a funeral procession, and upon being told that it was for a Jew, the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, replied: “Isn’t he a human being?”(Narrated by Bukhari and Muslim

Ans:

The incident was not at a funeral procession.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
www.askimam.com
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Okay, first of all we can not guarantee the authenticity of hadeeth to begin with..the hadeeth though mentions that it was a funeral, and mufti sahab here claims that it was not without providing any reason.

In the end when he says Allah knows best, that essentially means that he is giving his opinion, but that is not some divine truth.

Now..

here is the deal..
I think when there are mixed messages about stuff, lets do the things that are more humane.

Swera if you dont want to attend such events please dont, I have, and will continue to do so. Social interaction especially at such times brings about understanding between communities, and sometimes interesting conversations start which serve as the beginning of building much better understanding.

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For GOD’S SAKE use your common sense! Muslim men are allowed to marry non-muslim women but not allowed to attend their funeral? Do you know that Muhammed :saw: had a wife who never converted to Islam. What do you think RasoolAllah:saw: would do if she died? Again, use your common sense!

And this source www.askimam.com is very questionable. This man does not seem to be knowledgable about Quran and Hadith so well. Have you read his other fatwas?

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I have used islam-qa website quite a lot... but ... only to get references for the relevant ayat and ahadith. I have often found that the conclusions they reach are extremely narrow and often not supportable by the underlying evidence. The scholar(s) there often mix their own personal opinions by taking a leap from the evidence without connecting the dots. Also, they would ignore all evidence which proves exactly the opposite of what they want to conclude.

Therefore, if one cares to spend a few minutes of their time, they should use their own intelligence to sift through the evidence and reach their own conclusion. If, you are short of time, then blindly following their fatwas is probably you will end up doing anyway.

W'allah o Aalim

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U guys are taking all wrong, it's not that I don't do it or I don't want to this is why am saying don't go!
Okay I don't want to fight, I'll not post anymore in this thread, as far as I know not just this metter but many other are also diff in many scholors's eyes...
& am no scholor,
I am not saying anything on my own. OK
U can go don't go it's u choice, but if u do go does it mean you REALLY doy & if u don't go does it show u have no care att all???

& Allah knows the best.

Don't include me in any fights plz.
& mods if my eplies are leading to fight or are wong plz delete them, THANKS.

May Allah guide us all to the right path, ameen.

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Apart from all the confusion created here and everything is now as clear as mud:), I have an offtopic question first:

I never heard of this… Can you please, tell me which wife? Jazak ALLAH.

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swera the fatwa u posted was correct! don't worry about wat's being said to u

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I do not remember her name but she was jewish and she was one of the last wives of the Prophet :saw: (12th or 13th)…Please correct me if I am wrong but this is what I have read.

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Swera, here is another link from a website, similar to that you posted the link from.

Title:
Attending Funerals of Non-Muslims

Question:
What is the position of attending funerals of non-Muslims?

Answer:

While living in a mixed society, one generally has social relations with people ascribing to other faiths as well. Good and healthy social relations with others, besides being a part of man’s social nature, also provide the very foundation and basis of propagating Islam to others. Obviously, if we do not have a healthy social interaction with others, there is hardly a chance that we shall be able to attract them to the message of Islam. Thus, healthy social interaction with others (irrespective of their religious beliefs and ascriptions), in my opinion, is not only in consonance with man’s social nature but also a requirement for any subsequent opportunity of propagating the views that we hold to be true.

Congratulating and offering our good wishes to others in times of happiness and standing by their side and offering our condolences in times of sadness are two major periods of social interaction. Death of a friend or a friend’s loved one, irrespective of his/her religious affiliations, is a time when that friend (or his/her family) needs us by his/her side the most. We should consider ourselves extremely lucky, if our presence, at such times, can be source of comforting another human being.

In my opinion, therefore, **as it has not been explicitly prohibited by the Shari`ah, it should not only be considered allowed to attend a funeral of a non-Muslim friend or relative **or his/her loved one, but should also be looked upon as an opportunity to show our love, affection and strong social ties with that friend and his family.

These are, in fact, times and opportunities to be human. And Islam, I assure you, endorses all that is human.

www.understandingislam.com

So clealy there are divisions among these scholars, had there been an explicit refusal, yes we have to follow that but there is not, so do what you think is humane.

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CA, i think you read it wrong, Prophet :saw: had about 7 wives as reported in most authentic literature.

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12th or 13? hmm.. i thougth Rasoolulah:saw: had 11 wives all together.. 7 at most at a given time… i may be wrong… If u can find out her name though… cuz what I know she was converted…

Saby: did u read Fraudz’s post before posting?

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*Originally posted by Swera: *
U guys are taking all wrong, it's not that I don't do it or I don't want to this is why am saying don't go!
Okay I don't want to fight, I'll not post anymore in this thread, as far as I know not just this metter but many other are also diff in many scholors's eyes...
& am no scholor,
I am not saying anything on my own. OK
U can go don't go it's u choice, but if u do go does it mean you REALLY doy & if u don't go does it show u have no care att all???

& Allah knows the best.

Don't include me in any fights plz.
& mods if my eplies are leading to fight or are wong plz delete them, THANKS.

May Allah guide us all to the right path, ameen.
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Chill. No one wants to fight with you, we are all discussing.

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In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

As far as Islam is concerned, it is allowable to attend and watch the funerals of non-Muslims. A Muslim is always of a kind heart and feels pain for anything in this universe experiencing pain, even if it be a beast.

However, a Muslim, when attending such funerals, is not allowed to enter the halls of the church or any other place where there are crosses or pictures etc.

In addition, a Muslim is not allowed to go to the graves of non-Muslims as these are places where Allah’s curse do encompass such places.

Islam Online

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You may be right…I researched on this topic long time ago so I don’t remember the exact number and the names of his wives…I’m gonna look up on this topic again and let you know what her name was.

Thanks for correcting me.

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No anwaar, i missed his and Faisal's post.

And Swera, CA is right, we are just discussing and no one is fighting (so far) It is a learnign experience to know different views on a certain topic.

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*Originally posted by #let uz chat#: *
swera the fatwa u posted was correct! don't worry about wat's being said to u
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So do you believe that the showing of love and respect is not permissible to show towards a kaafir? Is it allowed to take a kaafir as a friend? Has Allah commanded you to regard them as enemies and shun them?

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Originally posted by Seminole: *
So do you believe that the showing of love and respect is not permissible to show towards a kaafir? * Is it allowed to take a kaafir as a friend?** Has Allah commanded you to regard them as enemies and shun them?
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when Islam talks about "not taking a non-muslim as a friend" it is clear that what is refered is taking their religious beliefs and approving them... which is not allowed.. other than that a non-muslim can be as good a friend as anyother human being can be..

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Taking non-muslims as friends? I thought the ayat says don't take them as 'protectors'. No? I think I should read it again.

Wallah O Aalim

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Originally posted by Anwaar Qureshi: *
when Islam talks about "not taking a non-muslim as a friend" it is clear that what is refered is taking their religious beliefs and approving them... which is not allowed.. other than that a non-muslim can be as good a friend as anyother human being can be..
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So when this fatwa says * it is not permissible for a Muslim to take a kaafir as a friend, because Allaah has commanded us to regard them as enemies, to shun them and to keep away from them. This does not mean that we should not deal with them or buy and sell or form business partnerships with them. That is one thing, and taking them as friends is another thing,** is it clear that he referring to "approving their religous beliefs"? As much confusion as there seems to be in what is allowed and what isn't in Islam and as many seem to take these silly fatwas literally, I don't think it's clear at all that they are referring to some other type of friend than just "friend".