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What's so frustraing is that many of us are so obsessed about the current Arab wars that we don't even have enough time to recognize and fix our own problems.
I'm just so fed up of the whole jew vs arab nonsense. I honestly don't care about either side anymore. We have enough problems right at home.
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Ditto!
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Which includes most members of your MMA.
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Nothing can be more cancerous than our inability to assert the rule of law.
Not good for Pakistan are the people who make the law and judicial system a rkhail in their hands, abusing it when ever they feel its necessary to assert their control on the country. People need justice, and when a country is ruled by a tyrant, illegally running the country by force, people tend to do the same, rule by force. We see that happening every day in Pakistan. If a country can be ruled by a tyrant, it can be ruled by a foreign tyrant as well.
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ignore my comments if its out of context,
i dont think there would be any action against pakistan till mushraf or any other person having good links with the west are in power. Problem will start when there is a fundamental parties and people with a strong anti west policies gain power in pakistan.
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Why would anyone need to attack Pakistan? That would be a waste of money. Using the phone would be so much cheaper and more convenient.
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After reading the comments over here, I sometimes wonder, people are MORE afraid of "elements" or "nation/s" attacking us, than Almighty Allah. Why cant people read the important battles in the history of Islam & learn that Allah has helped those who helped themselves.
I am not afraid if india or any other nation attacks, we have been facing this threat 59 years back, & Pakistan is a "potential threat" to israel any given day according to security analyts in USA, so why don't people start to comprehend the fact, that all this hype is really there to attack us anyday. Its not the question of "if" but "when"...!!!
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Pakistan doesnt hold any threat to Israel...........They might preceive it to be so because of the recent Iran Qadeer Khan episode......... Why would yanks need to attack Pakistan .... we are doing more for them then they themselves have done.....we have captured more Al Qaeeda's then yanks themselves.........Helped them with 7/7 and now as well...........So effectively they are ruling Pakistan then why waste more resources......As far as the taking off of the economy is concerned well really its a case of people who already have loads making more and average person being crushed under soaring inflation.............This episode of terrorism is completely a british issue.......Amir khan is british Sajid Mehmood is British Haroon is british and no one says british born pakistani about them as soon as a bomber is born in uk they call him a pakistani.......
**Khehkeshan **Most of these training camps were set up by the americans during afghan war....Most of them that exist today are in afghanistan and are used against Pakistan as much as against any other in the world. the ones in pakistan are on the border reigon with Afghanistan and that is under constant US surveillance...what i am saying is that if they were that easy to destroy it would have been done by now
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good post Saroo!
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Witness what happened to the Khilafat during the 4 year Jihad from 1914 to 1918.
That was the army of the Khilafat itself. In total 2.3 Muslims called up to fight a true Jihad called for by none other than the Khalifah himself, to recover Muslim lands stolen by foreign countries.
2.3 million Muslims who were roundly spanked from the very first days of the war and who only won 2 major battles during 4 years of fighting.
A just Jihad, in a just cause, that led to the complete humiliation of the Khalifat, with a foreign navy anchored in the capital of the Khalifat, forcing the Khalif to sign a peace treaty that gave foreign, Christian countries control over the capital itself and the economic and domestic policies of the Khalifat, a peace treaty that allowed foreign Christian countries to annex large tracts of the Khalifat.
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The front-most fear of course is nation(s) attacking us not because of resources but because of growing Islamism in the country. External elements are trying to influence the direction with all the money and power they can. We, due to largely ineffective Muslims get influenced in one way or the other. Verbally we say we obey Allah swt and are only afraid of Him, but ground reality is different. Lets focus on the current issue at hand which is possibility of other forces/countries lining up to wipe off whatever our strengths we have gained.
The issue is what we can do to gain strength? Nulear deterrent is something which helped us avert a war with India, but if that deterrent is taken away how else would we save against invasions?
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I am not afraid if india or any other nation attacks, we have been facing this threat 59 years back, & Pakistan is a "potential threat" to israel any given day according to security analyts in USA, so why don't people start to comprehend the fact, that all this hype is really there to attack us anyday. Its not the question of "if" but "when"...!!!
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That is the question: when? Is it coming closer? Yes I think, but how close is not clear.
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It doesn't matter whether Pakistan poses any real threat to any country, but the growing Islamism in country makes other countries skeptical and would want it to fail before Pakistan becomes fully Islamic. The front most accusations are/will be 'support of terrorism' and inability to curb the extremist elements.
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Excellent historical example. Thank you for that.
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I do no think attack on Pakistan is possible. Do remember that Pakistan is a major Non-NATO ally of United States and enjoys long relationship with China. If it came to that day than who will? United States, they first have to strip Pakistan as an ally than impose sanctions and try to take out nuclear capabilities. Moreover, they are unlikely to have a conventional war against Pakistan. Other options are Israel and India. Israel seems impossible, only if they attack us with their air force, than it is India, I do not think India will wage a full-scale war on behalf of United States when China is present. It will seriously affect the geopolitical landscape of South Asia. How can America give Pakistan F-16 and than think about attacking it?
What I think is that these arrests and labeling of nationality is actually to help Pakistani government. Do remember Musharraf and Aziz’s government is under siege with extremists and everyday in Lebanon, Iraq and Afghanistan only put pressures on them. The extremists elements are getting organized and becoming a powerful political force. The moderates in our country are mostly silent and either due to anger or mistrust does not speak in favor of our government. I think there is a planned move to seriously discourage, dismantle and destroy the extremist’s elements in Pakistan. They are exposing them internationally. Do remember that those arrests done on help of Pakistani authorities and most the people are Briton nationals but they expose them as Pakistanis and than talk about training camps. If they are successful in helping Pakistani government in exposing them in International stage, President Musharraf and his government either by will or by pressure will dismantle them. President might play the pressure role and take political hits but the goal will be to eliminate them. This wills the President's government and fellow politicians to comfortably take over Pakistan’s government and form a solid majority in the up coming elections.