atheism vs science & real face of atheism

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Re: atheism vs science & real face of atheism

@kakaballi

No. It can be Russian or Chinese.

and followers of every religion believes it is one true religion and others are incorrect. So, not every belief of religious people cannot be TRUE. In the same way, atheists have different beliefs and some of them might be rediculous to you and some reasonable.

I am sure you will find some of the beliefs Mormons have as rediculous. Shall I then say that all beliefs or religions are rediculous? Hell, even Sunnis would find some of the beliefs of Shias as rediculous and vice versa. When you cannot find one set of beliefs within one religion, why expect atheists to be all sane and sceintific?

or existance of mermaids, unicorns, hogwarts, etc.

I don’t know why people try to pain all atheists into one color. Atheism is NOT a religion. It is not a cohesive body of people following one set of beliefs. There are people who do not believe in God because;

1. they are lazy to do all praying and stuff; or
2. they do no find any evidence of existance of a super diety; or
3. they find some scientific theories and evidence persuasive enough to negate religious beliefs;
4. they do not know which religion to follow;
5. they were born in China; etc.

You see, it is not ALL science.

Religion can be beautiful. It is called ‘faith’ because you cannot ‘prove’ it all correct. If it were the case, it would be called ‘fact’, not ‘faith’. Religious people tend to humiliate themselves in an attempt to redicule atheists with arguments like “science belives human beings evolved from rocks”.

@kakaballi

I am not advocating for atheists.

I am simply saying that “Science cannot reject existance of God, hence God exists” is a BAD BAD BAD argument.

Easy there dude!!
Did you read the title of the thread. Did you read the last entire part of my post that you quoted and quoted what you fancied quoting.
“Science itself has never rejected the existence of God. If there are theories that negate this then there are researches and study that support the existence of God argument .”
I didn’t use the argument if science does not reject existence of God then God exists. I said and reiterated what aijazali had written in his first post neither science disapproves nor approves existence of God.
I don’t need any science or anything to prove to me that God exists or not, to believe in God, speaking for myself. For me God is there and has been and will be there forever and that’s the absolute truth to me. Science is too small a drop in the ocean of knowledge, that I would ever lay so much emphasis on to prove to me anything about God. When we read Quran, as i have no knowledge of other religious scriptures, we are encouraged to observe and logically search for the existence of God, the mention of sciences, natural processes.

And speaking of atheists, maybe all atheists don’t use science, but there are those who do and there are those connected with the scientific field who do vociferously.
As of science denying mermaids, hogwarts and unicorns or not, firstly go low on your Harry Pahter doses. Everyone knows about their fictional nature, and even if one doesn’t, no one is really ever hounded by thoughts of their existence and no scientists ever wastes funds and time studying and researching over them. And no atheists ever use them as their arguments to prove God doesn’t exist. Please do not humiliate yourself using examples not even suited for an elementary school kid.
I want to know if and anyone can answer that, if pain is not seen, wind is not seen, photons are not seen, Black holes have never been seen then why we want to be believe they exist. If its insane to ask such questions then God, the absolute entity, whose existence is much larger then these small intangible sensory processes, must have laid out signs and logic quite enough in things, matter etc to feel his existence. See here for your easy understanding i am using feel his existence. This is step one, further reflection, search for truth comes next.

To me it is impossible to de-link science from the religion. To me the very reality of existence of God is grounded well in science. or there is no science at all. And one can go on and believe in as many evolution theories as they want, sometimes evolving from rock sometimes from monkeys sometimes from a computer pc, only to trivialize mankind as much as they want.

And yes kakabili whilst you go sappy over letting atheists preach freely like any other faith etc, they really would do it or will happily not do it without your approval being expressed or not on this forum. But the thing is if you are preaching something and doing by cherrypicking and using arguments suiting your needs most( speaking of any belief group), then you must be prepared for the criticism.
And yes people from other faiths get criticized too. So why can’t one bring up a discussion about atheists and specially if it is viewed as an important issue too.