it seems that it has generally been accepted that whatever atheists speak is science. they themselves use science as tool to paint the face of atheism ‘beautiful’.
whereas realty is atheist tries to extend logic to cover their beliefs as follows.
science neither approves nor dissapprove the the existence of God but atheists do try to dissapprove.
a scholar says, sience eliminates the models of God but does not God.
science nether approves nor disappoves the existence of free will but atheists do try to dissapprove.
having said that science does not aim at negating religion but atheists put every single effort to make science an anti-religion tool.
on the other side of the picture if we consider the mindset of modern times criminal and oppressors like, serial killers, drug seller/ smuggler, human traffickers, sex traffickers does not seem to be claiming believers of God. I know some people will bring an argument of religious fanatics but here our purpose is to explore atheism only? throw light please.
do you think evolution is science? if so, it disproves what most religions claim as how humans happened. scientific studies have hardly been kind on religious dogma. so it is no surprise that atheists love to use it.
now if you define science to be only things that suit your religious beliefs, just like how the church did in the dark ages in europe, that wouldn't be science. nor does it last very long.
also the majority of serial killers, drug seller/ smuggler, human traffickers, sex traffickers believe in god. are you saying the pakistanis who get executed often by the saudis on drug smuggling charges were atheists? i highly doubt that. those that traded in slave trade aka human trafficking - hardly atheists. ted bundy was a proud methodist christian. many serial killers believe they are doing god's work, delivering his judgement etc. stop being so naive.
queer, I shall reply in detail. meanwhile you answer a simple question.
somewhere , theory of evolution says that living beings are evolved from rocks. do you believe it is true?
The discussion even after a long time will not get anywhere.
Why?
Because the science and religion as I have said several times are two different thought processes regardless how little overlap they may seem to have on each other.
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And one cannot be used to negate or justify other.
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Let religion be religion and science be science.
Athiests try hard to run away from being called followers of another religion and hence they use science to get some support for their hatred for other religions.
Notice I used the word "other" since Atheism is not very different from other formal religions...and becoming even more formal as the days go by.
The discussion even after a long time will not get anywhere.
Why?
Because the science and religion as I have said several times are two different thought processes regardless how little overlap they may seem to have on each other.
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And one cannot be used to negate or justify other.
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Let religion be religion and science be science.
Athiests try hard to run away from being called followers of another religion and hence they use science to get some support for their hatred for other religions.
Notice I used the word "other" since Atheism is not very different from other formal religions...and becoming even more formal as the days go by.
Yes diwana, you are right that this discussion is not going anywehre. but the purpose of this thread is bit different that is to tell people that not every belief of atheists is science.
I have observed very biased behavior of atheists. Its as if they want to focus and highlight more what they seem to prove their point and turn a blind eye to rest.
I till date and perhaps for good will fail to construe, anyone belonging to any religion or not, how a sane mind can accept those ridiculous theories of evolution even if one wants to called an atheist.
Science itself has never rejected the existence of God. If there are theories that negate this then there are researches and study that support the existence of
God argument .
it seems that it has generally been accepted that whatever atheists speak is science......
No. It can be Russian or Chinese.
Yes diwana, you are right that this discussion is not going anywehre. but the purpose of this thread is bit different that is to tell people that not every belief of atheists is science.
and followers of every religion believes it is one true religion and others are incorrect. So, not every belief of religious people cannot be TRUE. In the same way, atheists have different beliefs and some of them might be rediculous to you and some reasonable.
I am sure you will find some of the beliefs Mormons have as rediculous. Shall I then say that all beliefs or religions are rediculous? Hell, even Sunnis would find some of the beliefs of Shias as rediculous and vice versa. When you cannot find one set of beliefs within one religion, why expect atheists to be all sane and sceintific?
.......Science itself has never rejected the existence of God. ......
or existance of mermaids, unicorns, hogwarts, etc.
I don't know why people try to pain all atheists into one color. Atheism is NOT a religion. It is not a cohesive body of people following one set of beliefs. There are people who do not believe in God because;
they are lazy to do all praying and stuff; or
they do no find any evidence of existance of a super diety; or
they find some scientific theories and evidence persuasive enough to negate religious beliefs;
they do not know which religion to follow;
they were born in China; etc.
You see, it is not ALL science.
Religion can be beautiful. It is called 'faith' because you cannot 'prove' it all correct. If it were the case, it would be called 'fact', not 'faith'. Religious people tend to humiliate themselves in an attempt to redicule atheists with arguments like "science belives human beings evolved from rocks".
…Scientists also differ per discipline: Biologists are less prone to believe in God and the hereafter than physicists. So it isn’t surprising that the vast majority (78 percent) of eminent evolutionary biologists polled called themselves materialists (meaning that they believe physical matter to be the only reality). Almost three quarters (72 percent) of them regarded religion as a social phenomenon that had evolved along with Homo sapiens. They saw it as part of evolution, rather than conflicting with it…
I am sure you will find some of the beliefs Mormons have as rediculous. Shall I then say that all beliefs or religions are rediculous? Hell, even Sunnis would find some of the beliefs of Shias as rediculous and vice versa. When you cannot find one set of beliefs within one religion, why expect atheists to be all sane and sceintific?
So you think atheists do not exegerate using science?
