At last, the American soldiers discover a friendly welcome

More to come as Saddam’s gang runs away and the people are free to express their real feelings towards their liberators.

In the end the Iraqis will be free, while shortsighted Muslims will never know the benefit of this.

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At last, the American soldiers discover a friendly welcome
By Oliver Poole with the 3rd Infantry Division in central Iraq
(Filed: 01/04/2003)

**The welcome they had hoped for finally greeted American troops yesterday, as waving Iraqis lined the streets when the advance northwards to Baghdad was resumed.

The scenes, long awaited, did much to lift the spirits of the troops as convoys of tanks wound their way through a town on the west bank of the Euphrates.

“Maybe this is the parade they had promised us,” said Sgt Gary Harrison, as he returned a greeting with a wave. “They sure seem happy to see us. Let’s hope they aren’t the only ones.”

As they passed, hundreds, possibly thousands, of people emerged from their houses to signal their welcome.

Whole families stood together outside their homes, the children smiling and their parents urging the Americans forward. Young men stood in clusters, while women dressed in black religious robes put down the clothes they had been washing in the river and waved.**

Capt David Waldron, 31, commander of the Black Knights tank company, said: "When we drove into this town and I saw the crowds I told everyone to keep their head down. But they were so obviously friendly that I ended up waving back, too.

"I even tied a Stars and Stripes to the end of my machinegun as they need to know who it is who is liberating them.

“We’ve been hearing this from a number of areas now. It seems the message is getting through what we are doing here.”

From the buildings above the advancing Americans were hung not only white flags to indicate that the occupants were non-combatants, but also green flags to demonstrate that they were from the majority Shia community, long persecuted by Saddam Hussein.

Yesterday’s demonstration was the first large-scale welcome the Americans had received.

Individual Iraqis had previously approached to give warning about enemy buildings during the unit’s sparring with paramilitaries further south. They had called on the US troops to rid them of the paramilitary Saddam Fedayeen, who they said had been threatening them and their families.

Maybe the power of Saddam and the torturers and murderers he has recruited as his paramilitaries is finally beginning to weaken.

Maybe the fact that the Americans are now so far north means people are beginning to believe that they are here to stay this time.

Whatever the reason, as the children ran beside the huge American tanks yesterday while their parents waved encouragement, US soldiers dared to hope that the true feelings towards the “invaders” had finally been revealed.

Their attitude may also be changing as a result of the continuing US advance northwards.

The push northwards marked a new stage in the ground campaign. After a pause in which United States forces regrouped, and received new supplies of ammunition, food, water and vehicle parts, the order had been given to head towards Baghdad once more.

“This has always been the planned operation of attack,” Lt Col John W Charlton said of the resupply delay and subsequent resumption of the advance.

"What changed was that we had to cope with them coming at us in these little civilian vehicles wanting to take us on. That is what we are now doing.

“We are getting super aggressive and are going to kill them all.”
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And this is the exact news that will be hidden, suppressed, and challenged by the Muslim world that cares not for the Iraqis but only for Saddam's regime. I wonder where our priorities lie. Long term suffering of Iraqi people or short term suffering with a war that will bring them eventual freedom?

They're probably waving in the hopes that the invading forces will throw a bottle of water (or two) at them.

Nearly 500 have been killed by the brave American soldiers. No wonder some of them got the message that unless they greet them they will be shot.

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They're probably waving in the hopes that the invading forces will throw a bottle of water (or two) at them.
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Where you there to ask Iraqis why they were waving? The Iraqis are the ones giving the soldiers food and water.

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Nearly 500 have been killed by the brave American soldiers. No wonder some of them got the message that unless they greet them they will be shot.
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500 who? 500 socialist Ba'ath party terror squad members you mean? Sorry, but Iraqis have not forgotten the tyranny of Saddam Hussein even if you have.

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Nearly 500 have been killed by the brave American soldiers. No wonder some of them got the message that unless they greet them they will be shot.
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True perhaps.

I dont think they wnat one tyrrany to be replaced by another hand picked one from Washington. Wake up. Those women killed in taxis today were Baath party activists and so were the children and women killed in the market place in Baghdad the other day. Yup you are right.

kitna khoon jalta hai bechaare kaa! ch.ch.ch :p

Sounds to me like the US was smart and sent someone to talk to the local imams and town leaders beforehand telling them to get the word out: "we need to show our people back home that you guys love us otherwise we'll have to leave and then you know Saddam will kill you all for helping us earlier". I saw a lot of kids giving us the good ol thumbs up.. they're so happy...

rite now, people of iraq have more to fear from americans than saddam and his ba'ath party :-) so obviously these people have no other option but to welcome them. they know americans will take over baghdad one day and then they will come back to settle down the scores :-)

What a bizarre article backed up by an even more ludicrous concept. The thought that people who are being bombed at, who see their childrens' heads blown apart, should somehow line up to wave, cheer, and offer flowers to their killers. Thanks for what ? For referring to your fellow brothers and sisters as collateral damage ? Thanks for targeting our hospitals, thanks for turning our schools into military targets, thanks for targeting our residential marketplaces, thanks for starving us for 13 years through the sanctions. Thanks for all of this ?

Pata nahiN what exactly the US govt. wants - first you starve an entire country, bring it down to its knees, then 13 years later you decide you've had enough of one dictator so you invade and then bomb civilians. And then some individuals actually contemplate - why do we not see many Iraqis cheering at us and waving us on ?

Dunya ki haalat dekh kar itni afsos aati hai - we never seem to learn from history.

Congratulations Nadia. You’ve finally worn me down. The facts, evidence, and arguments simply fly by you at the speed of light and you repeat the same tired refrain over and over again. Now the US is to blame that Saddam has placed his tanks, weapons and military personnel inside schools, hospitals and mosques. :yukh:

>>Congratulations Nadia. You've finally worn me down.<<
Muchas gracias. i knew it was possible.

Let me dig it up - if i am not mistaken, there was a recent article posted that stated the US was using childrens' schools, a girls' school infact, if i am not mistaken.

The little 'puke' icon you utilized, is interesting. i think it would be better served, however, if you utilized it for the argument that one is able to liberate a people by lobbing cruise missiles at their heads, homes, hospitals, and marketplaces. i have no doubts the US govt. will eventually win the invasion perhaps due to its comparatively superior aerial power. You will never be able to win the trust of a people by bombing them. How successful do you believe the US has been in winning the hearts of the Muslim world at large through its actions in Iraq ?

i hate using cliches but for want of something more appropriate - you'll win the war but you'll lose the peace.

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i hate using cliches but for want of something more appropriate - you'll win the war but you'll lose the peace.
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Indeed. They may win the battle, but lose the war.

I didn’t think we were trying to win the hearts of the Muslim world at large through our actions in Iraq. Frankly, I’d be satisfied if we just scared the cr*p out of most of them. As to the Iraqi people, I have very little doubt that when all is over in Iraq, their hearts will be won. I hope you will smile and be happy for them when they are smiling and being happy. I don’t expect to win your heart but here’s a flower anyway. :flower2:

In Iraq we win both. As to the rest of the Muslim world, we already were losing the peace so shuffling the cards up a little bit can’t hurt.

Fret, Thank you. You stated precisely what i mean.

MyVoice,
>>Frankly, I’d be satisfied if we just scared the crp out of most of them.<<*
i tend to take everything too seriously, so let me ask - are you serious about this or just kidding ?

>>I hope you will smile and be happy for them when they are smiling and being happy.<<
No. i will smile when Iraq is finally free of all internal and external forms of oppression. That includes the day when Jay Garner and Tommy Franks both buy a one way ticket out of Iraq, not install a less-uppity dictator in Baghdad and take up permanent residency and siphon off most of Iraq’s oil revenues.
But then that’s just me.

>>I don’t expect to win your heart but here’s a flower anyway. :flower2:<<
Thank you.

>>In Iraq we win both. As to the rest of the Muslim world, we already were losing the peace so shuffling the cards up a little bit can’t hurt. <<
A hypothetical situation to understand where some of your opinions lie - imagine that if (or when) the US occupies Baghdad, a referendum is held a few months later to determine what type of government the Iraqi people want. The referendum is held fairly and freely. If the majority votes to have all US troops out of the country, no American interim governor presiding in Baghdad, and that the country should be turned over to the UN for as long as it takes to develop an elected government - would you be in agreement with all of these conditions - voted for by the majority of Iraqis? When you formulate your answer, please remember that the genuine “liberation” of Iraq has been one of the cornerstone arguments of President Bush.

MyVoice, This is the thread initiated by another Guppy that i was referring to earlier - “Kurds Voice Suspicion of U.S. Troops - Townspeople Complain That Presence of GIs’ in Schools Is Posing a Danger”.

Sadly it is not just Sad-dam who uses schools as military targets. Even democratic governments like to play this game.

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...imagine that if (or when) the US occupies Baghdad, a referendum is held a few months later to determine what type of government the Iraqi people want. The referendum is held fairly and freely. If the majority votes to have **all US troops out of the country, no American interim governor presiding in Baghdad, and that the country should be turned over to the UN for as long as it takes to develop an elected government
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What would be most amusing is if, when this happens (soon after the war, not the years it is currently planned, the liberated Iraqis install a government and immediately expel all foreign military but play along with loose UN civilian oversight), they nationalize their oil and water resources – a la Nasser and the canal – and terminate Anglo-American contracts in favor of cheaper European and Russian ones. Would we react like the French and British did over the Suez??

A small but good sign for the coalition.

Through a minefield, with Iraqi help
Encounters may be signs of growing civilian support for U.S.
Pfc. Dustin Jans of Phoenix, Ariz., from the 1st Brigade of the 101st Airborne Division questions Iraqi women at a checkpoint in Najaf on Tuesday.

WAR DIARY
By Dana Lewis
NBC NEWS

NAJAF, Iraq, April 2 — As units of the 101st Airborne moved into Najaf Tuesday, Iraqi civilians came forward on at least two occasions to point out minefields in their path. American commanders say that could be an indication that U.S. forces are beginning to win the trust of some Iraqis, a key goal of the U.S. and its allies in their fight to topple the government of Saddam Hussein.

Some of the local residents came out of their homes and approached the U.S. forces, who searched them to make certain they were not armed and then let them go.
But one man began talking to us in Arabic and gesturing toward a nearby field. At first, we thought he used the field for growing crops and was worried that our heavy vehicles would damage them. But then we understood he was saying the field had been mined.

-more-
http://www.msnbc.com/news/894277.asp?0cv=CA01