At Harvard, Students' Muslim Traditions Are a Topic of Debate

academia is key to seeing the trends of curiosity among people in a nation state.
issues related to govt policies, general racial sentiment of resentment or dislike or acceptance towards them, are very clear among the academic clout.

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Dushwari

At Harvard, Students’ Muslim Traditions Are a Topic of Debate

Rick Friedman for The New York Times

By NEIL MacFARQUHAR

Published: March 21, 2008

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. — Two issues of Muslim practice — whether the call
to prayer should ring out across Harvard Yard and whether the
university should grant women separate gym hours — have unleashed
small waves of controversy over how Harvard practices tolerance.

Heated discussions have erupted on dormitory chat rooms, students
said, while various opinion articles in the student newspaper, The
Harvard Crimson, have denounced both practices.

“I think that because Harvard is a secular campus, there is a fear
among some students that religious beliefs or practices might be
imposed on people who don’t want anything to do with them,” said
Jessa Birdsall, a 20-year-old sophomore who said she thought the
university should accommodate the beliefs of all students.

The debate began in early February, when the undergraduate college
restricted one of the three largest gyms on its main campus, the
Quadrangle Recreational Athletic Center, to women only on Mondays
from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m., and Tuesdays and Thursday from 8 a.m. to 10
a.m.

The college spokesman, Robert Mitchell, would not describe how the
decision was reached, but various students said a small group of
Muslim women undergraduates living in the Leverett House dormitory
asked for the change.

The group of women felt that workout clothes violated the Muslim
prescription that both sexes wear modest dress in shared
environments. So they asked that the dormitory set aside its mini
gyms for women a few hours each week. The request eventually made its
way to the Harvard College Women’s Center and it was decided that the
Quadrangle center, which Mr. Mitchell called the college’s least-used
athletic facility, would be restricted to women only at certain
times. He said the change was an experiment that would be re-
evaluated in June.

The second controversy occurred after the adhan, or call to prayer,
was once again broadcast across Harvard Yard at noon from the steps
of the Widener Library for several days late last month. The
broadcast was part of Islam Awareness Week, sponsored by the Muslim
student club, the Harvard Islamic Society.

On March 13, an op-ed article by three graduate students denounced
the practice, which has been going on for several years. They wrote
that while pluralism was fine, the adhan espouses Muslim intolerance
toward other faiths by stating that the Prophet Muhammad is God’s
messenger. Calling it proselytizing, the op-ed article said, “The
adhan, it seems, is the exception to Harvard’s unspoken rule of
religious tolerance and respect.”

The arguments over both issues boiled down to whether Harvard was
being admirably tolerant or was disrupting the lives of everyone to
placate a vocal minority.

Rauda Tellawi, a 21-year-old senior who veils her hair, said that the
animated arguments about the gym hours that unrolled on her dorm’s in-
house chat room noted that even some men felt intimidated by the
presence of women in the gym if they were, say, not bench-pressing as
much as a buddy. Ms. Tellawi said she habitually left the gym if men
were hovering nearby while she ran or did sit-ups.

“Even if you have loose clothing on, they are going to see things
that we are not supposed to let them see,” she said, adding, “Islam
doesn’t encourage you to physically lie down in front of men.”

Ms. Tellawi did not consider it discriminatory to set aside some
hours at the gym for women. Instead, she views it as a healthy
accommodation. She noted that students who follow kosher eating rules
have a separate area in her dining hall and said that some non-Muslim
women also supported the separate gym hours.

The new system has been criticized for not attracting enough women to
warrant separate hours, and several students said perhaps only 15
people use the center during peak periods at night, despite the fact
that it offered its own locker rooms, squash and basketball courts,
weights and aerobic machines.

Nicholas J. Wells, a junior who used to work out in the morning, said
he thought the change was “unfair to men and inconvenient for women.”
While he was all for supporting Muslim women, he said there had to be
a more practical way so that Quad residents did not lose access to
their main gym.

A junior, Lucy M. Caldwell, echoed those arguments. She criticized
the hours for women only as too drastic an accommodation to make for
a religious minority, dismissing the idea that many non-Muslim women
supported it.

When word of the new gym hours became public, Harvard was attacked in
the blogosphere for being a bastion of liberalism run amok.

As to the call to prayer, Muslim students said the adhan was a basic
statement of their creed and had nothing to do with denying other
faiths. The debate focused mostly on whether Muslims were getting a
right denied to people of other religions.

One student wrote in the comments section of The Crimson’s Web site
that Harvard Yard was not a comparative religion class, while another
said if students could romp there naked and urinate on the statue of
John Harvard, surely forbearance toward other cultures was warranted.

Many students seemed oblivious to either issue, saying they were
preoccupied with midterm examinations.

Taha Abdul-Basser, the Muslim chaplain at Harvard, said both episodes
were indicative of the growing number of Muslims in the United
States.

“There are some people who are not just comfortable that Muslims, by
virtue of the change of demographics, are going to become more and
more visible,” he said.

Re: At Harvard, Students' Muslim Traditions Are a Topic of Debate

Tolerance?

Three gymnasiums and one of them setting aside 4 hours out of a week and these guys raise hell...Bloody small minded oafs...

Re: At Harvard, Students' Muslim Traditions Are a Topic of Debate

setting aside gym for women seems like a good idea...after all they are not limiting it to any one religion.

but calling adhan aloud is not good. it is a educational institution, not a religious colony

Re: At Harvard, Students' Muslim Traditions Are a Topic of Debate

Okay, I have a few comments to make.

The Adhan issue should not be an issue. Its part of the Islamic Awareness Week at the school and many other universities have a similar week. At our undergrad institution, we would play the Adhan once in the week, and from what I understood, the religion department was very supportive of the awareness activities done that week. The intention is not to IMPOSE your religious call to prayer on people, but play it so that for one friggin day out of the year, they can hear what it sounds like and get a simulation of how things sound 5 times a day in a muslim country. Simple. What's to argue over this?

Now, it is the muslim student organization's RESPONSIBILITY to make this clear to the student population.

As for gym hours being reserved for muslim women - I do agree that if this is causing a disruption in other people being allowed to access gym facilities at the same time, it is VERY wrong. I don't think that's the case here - it sounds like they have multiple facilities.

HOWEVER, there are muslim women who compete in sports and as such they practice and train outside under the bright sky and I don't see anything in Islam that says parts of the natural world must be sealed off for such trainings. As long as they are fully clothed and wearing proper gym clothes there should be NO issue. And there is certainly no inhibiion for a woman to not excercise in front of other men. That's preposterous - no evidence for it. Women fought in wars alongside men in Muhammed (SAW)'s time, AND he used to race his wife all the time in fun and games. Athletic activity is most certainly allowed for women in Islam, and instead of making it difficult, they should try easier methods, like going to the gym when there are fewer people there and taking up an area where people aren't using that portion of the facility much or attending workout classes (most of which are usually filled with girls) - in some gyms, its rare to see a guy taking a class.

I and many other muslim girls use our school gym and I find it insulting to think that we'd be viewed as harlots because we go in proper outfits and try to take care of our health. Most people don't even look at you at the gym - they're focused on their own workout.

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Oh I didn't realize it was only for the one awareness day - which doesn't seem too bad. but there still is a risk of two kinds but what limits do you draw for what kind of practices can be so made 'aware'

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exactly, the whole thing is about the perception of what are real teachings and ethos of Muslims & how just like any other practicing faction, .they should be able to practice their public religious practices such as call to prayers and separate groups of women and men of equal age.

to non Muslims, the best lens is being able to see all of Muslims in all of our every day living.
so that they can dispel their misconceptions about what true Muslims are all about and their every day living.

best,
Dushwari

Re: At Harvard, Students' Muslim Traditions Are a Topic of Debate

Withing limits. We are not in a muslim country, and therefore, since western countries have welcomed muslim immigrants and we enjoy a luxury of freely practicing our religion without pressures and distortions and hypocrisies and brutalities like in other muslim countries, we should be respectful of the law of the land, which is separation of religion and state. Christians have to be quite patient and gulp down a lot going on in society that is illegal in their religion but legal in society - we should be able to make similar saccrifices within reason. I don't see ANY muslim in this country having a problem with practicing their religion, and if the demand for women's separated sports/excercise is an issue then muslim communities need to step up to the bat and build resources for these women. I don't see anything haraam about adding muslim community centers to the masjids that could feature these ammenities.

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I think its a very creative idea. They do it more frequently in the week at Harvard apparently. We only did it once a year - one prayer call. But we also had a slew of different activities which were religious and cultural at the same time, so I don't know whether the MSO at Harvard is more conservative such that their Islamic awareness week amounts basically to preaching Islam.

There's definitely a difference between preaching and raising awareness.

We would have Islam question/answer panels opened up to the school - anyone could come, and panelists were students who read up on hot topic questions (there are course materials you can order for this purpose, actually); we participated in international-week, which was a show-case of different cultures and performances and food from around the world; stuff like that. It varied a bit year to year depending on who was involved and what ideas people came up with. So, the adhan just blended in with the rest of the activities.

It definitely matters HOW its done and presented, which falls on the shoulders of the officers who make up the muslim organization on campus.

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You know what I’d liek to see? If Jews get their own rack of Kosher meals, and a kosher microwave, something the same for Muslims..halal food. THAT wud be cool :k:

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Those who are trying to raise hll on these small issues need to find themselves something else...Retards. A miniscule thing made into as if its a lfe or death situation.

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Peace All

It's the minority recognition syndrome. PyariCgudia is correct. Preaching is not the same as awareness. I would add that tolerance is not the same as acceptance.

However, I have always opposed the secularity in values ... Muslims cannot complete our religious obligations without inviting people to Islam. We can do so by telling others how right we are ... (good luck) or we can do so by being good to others even when they are intolerant towards us.

I'm not sure whether "Islam Awareness" was effective in telling those 3 graduate students who denounced the Adzhan practice about Islam. Unfortunately, we demand our rights to have our gym, but we are often not heard for the rights of animals and the environment. Why is it that we rise to the battle only when it concerns us? Did Allah (SWT) not leave us here to be helpers for the whole of the world?

Would people care much about the call to prayer if we were nice and pleasant to them? Students living in halls with communal facilities such as bathrooms and kitchens. In Islam Awareness Week would it not be better to wash up the dishes of your neighbours and clean out the areas that no body wants to take responsibility over because it is used by all? Then to find the opportunity to add that our great leaders of Islam used to practice this very thing. Umar (RA) and Abu Bakr (RA).

Awareness has two niches one in the mind the other in the heart. It is all good to remind people about Islam on the intellectual level. However, showing people Islam is many more times effective. Demanding ones own rights is not better than sacrificing them to help others. The sorry thing is once the time was allocated for private use for women ... why was this right abused?

At my uni some years ago, there were three sessions per week that were women only for four hour slots, and the gyms were always kept busy in those time slots.

Re: At Harvard, Students' Muslim Traditions Are a Topic of Debate

Ya very true and to think in Saudi Arabia they dont provide two square feet of open land to set a small temple..

Pretty big minded oafs these Saudis I think..

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:salam:

Similar to my sentiment.

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We preach without exemplifying. So to the unaware recipient of our views, its just another philosophy or ideology. You are right, we must live what we preach in all spheres of life not just ones to propagate our own views.

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When you have one of the Oldest Temples anywhere The Holy Kaba then all other little temples just get in the way.....don't you think......:)