do you believe in Astrology and palmistry …
and do you think we should take advantage of this knowledge?
and what islam says about it ?
Re: Astrology and Palm reading .... Do we believe Muslims believe in fate or destiny?
Islam mein astrology aur palmistry se kuch pata karna jayaz nahin samjha jaata
Re: Astrology and Palm reading .... Do we believe Muslims believe in fate or destiny?
its definitly/certainly Haraam..
Re: Astrology and Palm reading … Do we believe Muslims believe in fate or destiny?
Astrology was practiced during medieval times by prominent Arab astrologers. Remember, astrology is based on the planets and Muslims were heavily into astronomy in the medieval period. There is something called “Arabic Parts Astrology” developed by Arabs which is used to this date by traditional astrologers across the world.
Al-Biruni was one of leading Arab astrologers
I find it really interesting. You can read more about it Al-Biruni and his teachings here:
Re: Astrology and Palm reading .... Do we believe Muslims believe in fate or destiny?
^were they astronomers or astrologists??
Re: Astrology and Palm reading .... Do we believe Muslims believe in fate or destiny?
ilm-e-Ghaib kaa seekhna yaa sikhaanaa yaa is par yaqeen karna islam meN Haraam hai kiuN k Ghaib kaa ilm sirf aur sirf Allah ko hai...is aitaqaad se aaj hamaare samaaj meN kitnii buraaiyaaN phaili hui haiN iskaa andaaza sabhii ko hai...kitnii ziyaadtiyaaN ho rahii haiN ma'soom aur anjaan logoN par. is se to kosoN door rahnaa chaahiye
Re: Astrology and Palm reading .... Do we believe Muslims believe in fate or destiny?
Al-Biruni was an astrologer.
From the website I quoted:
The Arabs had always been interested in astronomy. The stars were used for navigation in the desert, and the Moon still regulates the Islamic calendar. The discovery of the theories of Ptolemy and Hipparchus, however, brought a new scientific rigour to the study. This was further stimulated by contact with India and the advanced techniques of Indian mathematics. The numeric symbols 1, 2, 3, 4, etc., and the decimal system of notation based on the symbol zero - which was unknown to the Greeks and Romans - came originally from India, as did algebra and the sine function in trigonometry (the other five trig functions were Arabic inventions). These innovations brought unprecedented accuracy to Arabic astronomy. The first great Islamic observatory was founded in 829 by Caliph al-Ma'mun at Baghdad and equipped with observing instruments modelled on those described by Ptolemy and Hipparchus. Gradually designs were improved until eventually the precision of Arabic astronomy surpassed anything achieved by the Greeks.
The philosophical foundation to Arabic astrology was laid down by al-Kindi (d.866), tutor and physician to al-Ma'mun and regarded as one of the most learned men of his time. Drawing upon classical ideas, al-Kindi evolved a philosophy of 'cosmic sympathy' linking the macrocosm and microcosm. Correspondences between celestial configurations and events on Earth demonstrated the wholeness of Creation, while the theories of Aristotle and Ptolemy provided a respectable scientific framework. The fatalism implicit in astrology was broadly compatible with the teachings of Islam, which means 'submission' to the Will of Allah. Astrological symbolism became an important element in the esoteric doctrines of the Sufi mystics, though more orthodox Islamic theologians argued that since Allah was all-powerful, astrology was irrelevant at best; at worst it was a dangerous delusion bordering on the magical and demonic. Similar objections were raised by Christian theologians when astrology began to filter into medieval Europe through the Islamic universities of Moorish Spain.
Re: Astrology and Palm reading .... Do we believe Muslims believe in fate or destiny?
There are a number of Ahadith declaring it as forbidden (haram). The future is and shall be known to only one and no tactics to predict it are allowed or appreciated.
In The Holy Quran, Surah Al-Maida commands "Forbidden also is to use arrows seeking luck or decision; all that is disobedience of Allah and sin".
and
Prophet(pbuh) said, "Whoever acquires knowledge of any branch of astrology, has acquired knowledge of a branch of magic.The more he increases in that knowledge, the more he increases in sin." Sunan Abu Dawud, Vol. 3,p. 1095,no. 3896)
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so all the models that people build to predict temperature change in next 100 years etc - not allowed?
Re: Astrology and Palm reading .... Do we believe Muslims believe in fate or destiny?
^ haha funny we were just discussing this at home few days ago. I don't think that's the same thing as predicting a person's future based on things like stars, planets or lines on ones hand. Predicting temperature changes based on mathematical calculations and tools isn't the same.