^ Exactly. I believe Saudi arabia is the root of all this fitnah, be it pakistani madressahs, taliban, egyptian salafis, lebanon, syrian and iraqi alqaeda, israel/palestine, Oppression in bahrain, kuwait, qatar etc… They fan the flames in every country; I cannot wait to see their downfall.
^but your sentiments predate ‘saudi’ so as far as your sentiments are concerned just their downfall will not solve the problem
for example the sufis ofthe subcontinent were once in a court, when other party said it is our religion to do such and such, so the sufis said then our religion is jihad
so the short term solution is for one party who believes in it to remain in taqiyah, rather then the coming out like the iranian revolution is trying to push. is that acceptable to you for decrease in fitnah?
what about these sufis? “..sufis ofthe subcontinent were once in a court, when other party said it is our religion to do such and such, so the sufis said then our religion is jihad”
How about we come back to the topic of this thread?
Syria was one of the countries on Bush’s Axis of Evil list (Iraq, Iran, Libya, Cuba, North Korea, Pakistan?).
I think she meant to say that NATO is getting increasingly desperate and on the verge of intervention because its been 21 months and Assad govt. hasnt fallen.
Yes of course they knew all along. Now that infiltrating Al-CIAda rebels into Syria didnt bring about an expected revolution, things have become desperate. They will come up with “phony” dossier on chemical weapons. History is repeating itself.
i cant say i can reciprocate this sentiment of yours
if i can suggest something please look at the sources of the sentiments you are expressing, i think you’ll find you have no religious obligation to be anti saudi, anti arab, or anti sunni in general. after your recent pilgrimage i think you should retire from these ‘militantish’ subjects. i’ll be glad to help you refocus on a more balanced personal standing within the Islamic world
well you guys were discussing the same topic (post 6 onwards) and i think, well atleast i can see it, that i have laid bare the nazriath of sectarianism on this second page.
so yeah we can blame america, they are always likely to have dirty hands in every conflict, but the sectarianism initself is Middle eastern. Persia wants its position back but this time theres a change due to significance of Arabia (the bestowment of a Messenger on its land). now Arabia and Persia are inextricably linked
as for the assad situation in isolation, i think the two most involved local countries are Turkey and Iran, and thats reflected with the involvement of their armed forces. i am not sure however on the geopolitical side of things what involvement and plans the US has for the region. obviously theyve shaped iraq how they wanted to and it looks like they want assad out, according to a bbc article in july assad only accused them of providing ‘political support’ and left for Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar the accusation of arming the uprising. Question is how involved is the US?
Shardmanny, not to say it matters, but Sunni school is far more Persian in origin than the Shia school. From the founder of the biggest school within Sunnis Imam Abu Hanifa to the compilers of six Sunni sahi books of hadiths (Bukhari, Muslim, Nasai, Abu Dawood, Tirmidhi, Ibn Maja) are all Persians. Later on, Ghazali who codified the Sunni orthodoxy too was Persian.
On the other hand Shia school and its teachings took a formal shape under Imam al Baqir and As Sadiq (both obviously Hashmi). Shia compiler of hadiths such as Sheikh Mufid, Sheikh Saduq, Sheikh Yaqoob Kulayni, Syed Sharif Murtada, Syed Sharif al Radi (compiler of Nahjul Balagha) were all Arabs. In fact when Iran turned Shia under the safavids, they imported scholars from abroad since there wasn’t much of a native Persian Shia tradition at that point in time. Shaykh Hurr al Amuli for example (compiler of Wasail as Shia) was from Jabal Amil (modern day Lebanon).
Compared to all other Arab leaders what is so wrong with Assad? I know the West hate him because he and Iran are the only real threat in the Middle East to Israel but why are so many Muslims against him?