Asking God- - Is Christ your son?

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Originally posted by rvikz:
The word "son" was employed among the Semites to signify not only filiation, but other close connexion or intimate relationship. Thus, "a son of strength" was a hero , a warrior, "son of wickedness" a wicked man, "sons of pride" wild beasts, "son of possession" a possessor, "son of pledging" a hostage, "son of lightning" a swift bird, "son of death" one doomed to death, "son of a bow" an arrow, "son of Belial" a wicked man, "sons of prophets" disciples of prophets etc. The title "son of God" was applied in the Old Testament to persons having any special relationship with God. Angels, just and pious men.
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Ibrahim says: greetings of peace to one and all

rvikz, Indeed true! but the Christians did not understand this, instead they took christ as the actual son of God as well as God appearing as a man on Earth and ending up as a trinity in heaven just like the hindu version

which is the main problem, that led God to aborogate the Gospel. thanks

Regards
Ibrahim

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ibrahim common man weather muslim or chritian
practise religen at street level differently.

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LOL! shooting your mouth off again Queer dear? It seems no amount of evidence will be acceptable to a Hindu . And Queer is only capable of talking nonsense as he seems to be repeatedly exposing his folly must be the air. as the basic root word used in Aramaic referring to God NEVER E-llee as Queer is claiming.<<

Dude Ibrahim, what's with getting personal and insulting ever so often?

Anyway, AaloH and AalaH are God. But so is E-llee. "Eel" is the ancient word for God in Aramic. It has been used in conjunction with names like Emmanuel (Umun Eel - God with us), Daniel (Dyaanta D Eel - God's judgement), Gibrael (Gaa-Baa-RRaa Eel - Powerful God). "E-llee/EeLlee" literally means "my God".

but Queer will not accept that , in fact he is the only Hindu who will deny that “abba” pronounced as “appa” and the word “Amma” pronounced as “amma” is not used by Indians in India which is actually an Aramaic word for father and mother. used by Christ.<<

Appa is not Abba. there is no reason why a language Tamil, which has both the "ba" and "pa" sounds would change abba to appa. however, in a language like Arabic, which lacks the "pa" sound, appa would become abba. also, tamil is an ancient dravidian language, aramic is an ancient semitic language, it would be stupidity to link words between them.

cheers,
queer

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[quote]
Originally posted by queer:
"E-llee/EeLlee" literally means "my God".
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Ibrahim says: Queer dear, Earlier you said ** "E-llee" is God in Aramic** , now you say ** "E-llee/EeLlee" literally means "my God".**

even after I have shown evidence to the contrary

Now show me evidence or else don’t waste my time . Kindly STOP being dishonest or else I will expose you as being dishonest for this is a religious forum, only TRUTH matters here.

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even after I have shown evidence to the contrary<<

you did no such thing, all you did was provide additional words that meant God in aramic.

Now show me evidence or else don’t waste my time . Kindly STOP being dishonest or else I will expose you as being dishonest for this is a religious forum, only TRUTH matters here. <<

easy on the rhetoric dude. if you want confirmation and links, learn to ask for it like an adult, all that screeching and cussing is highly immature.

The Aramaic is closely related to the more ancient root word for God, eel

We’re quickly starting to notice the obvious linguistic and etymological connections between the respective words for God in these closely related Semitic languages (e.g. Allah, Alah, and Eloh being related to Ilah, Eel, and El, respectively).

… The famous last words of Jesus were in his native tounge, aramaic, E-LEE
E-LEE L-MAA-NAA SAA-BAACH-TAA-NEE) = (My God, my God, why …

The original word 'Elohim, ‘God,’ is certainly the plural form of 'Eel

cheers,
queer

[This message has been edited by queer (edited June 17, 2002).]

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Ibrahim says: NOW for the last time. . Go here www.peshitta.org and type God in the Aramaic lexicon to find the** EXACT root word for God as used by Christ ** in Aramaic .

You will get

Pronunciation:
(Eastern) AaLaH
(Western) AaLoH

Queer dear, if this is not PROOF, than it is obvious you need medical help too

The root word for God is not e–llee as you have claimed earlier by saying E-llee means God in Aramaic .

Now that is my point and will remain as my point until you can prove otherwise.

So try harder, I can wait as long as you need.

Regards
Ibrahim

** He who stops getting better ceases being good **

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ibrahim,

you are skirting the truth. namely,

  1. "AalaH" means God, so does "Eel". Eel is the more ancient one, the root from which "AalaH" is derived.

  2. "E-Lee" means "My God".

read my previous post and you have all the proof you ask for, complete with links to articles, some of which are muslim websites.

Jesus used "Eel", and "E-Lee" was used by him in his famous last words.

good luck,
queer

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[quote]
Originally posted by queer:
1. "AalaH" means God, so does "Eel". Eel is the more ancient one, the root from which "AalaH" is derived.

Ibrahim says: Allah is not derived from El, El is a Hebrew word read as “Ale” short form of Allah, as used in the Hebrew Bible as well as on other Hebrew words . period. I already revealed this earlier.

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2. "E-Lee" means "My God".
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Ibrahim says: My God and God is not one and the same , now your claim was it meant God in Aramaic at first , later you changed it, so STOP spinning and admit your mistake.

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Jesus used "Eel", and "E-Lee" was used by him in his famous last words.
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Ibrahim says : Jesus may have used it because that is fabricated passage as found in the Gospel but Christ did not die on a cross, nor hanged on a tree! period . so again that is fabrication and not the truth. The truth is he called upon Allah, PERIOD.

Now go back the drawing table and study before spinning on matters that you have No clue about.

good luck you may need it but it won't help you since you have been dishonest

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thanks for agreeing finally with my points, the whining is excused.

Jesus may have used it because that is fabricated passage as found in the Gospel but Christ did not die on a cross, nor hanged on a tree! period . so again that is fabrication and not the truth. The truth is he called upon Allah, PERIOD.<<

i dont see why you are even mentioning all this. did i raise such a question? as usual you are confused, and choose to take everything defensively, and employ a barrage of insults.

cheers,
queer

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[quote]
Originally posted by queer:
thanks for agreeing finally with my points,

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Ibrahim says : This is lunacy Queer, I DID NOT AGREE WITH YOU, I wrote…. you are talking nonsense out of ignorance now read my reply again, if ever you have the capacity to digest it.

BTW, you cannot annoy me, no matter how hard you try, you will only end up making a fool of yourself.

Now read again and again and again, keep reading , there is no other option for you.

[quote]
Originally posted by queer:
1. "AalaH" means God, so does "Eel". Eel is the more ancient one, the root from which "AalaH" is derived.
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Ibrahim says: ** Allah is not derived from El, El is a Hebrew word read as "Ale" ** short form of Allah, as used in the Hebrew Bible as well as on other Hebrew words . ** period.** I already revealed this earlier.

** THIS MEANS THAT YOU ARE IN ERROR , since El is nor Aramaic but Hebrew and El is not root for Allah, Allah is the proper name of God and does not mean God. **

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2. "E-Lee" means "My God".
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Ibrahim says: My God and God is not one and the same , now your claim was it meant God in Aramaic at first , later you changed it, ** so STOP spinning and admit your mistake.**

[quote]
Jesus used "Eel", and "E-Lee" was used by him in his famous last words.
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Ibrahim says : Jesus may have used it ** because that is fabricated passage as found in the Gospel** but Christ did not die on a cross, nor hanged on a tree! period . so again that is fabrication and not the truth. ** The truth is he called upon Allah, PERIOD.

Now go back the drawing table and study before spinning on matters that you have No clue about.

good luck you may need it ** but it won't help you since you have been dishonest**

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you are twisting and hiding from the truth, Ibrahim.

Eel is God in Aramic.