Asian gangs are out of control

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Gangs are giving a bad name to the Pakistani and Bangladeshi community in UK.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_politics/newsid_2102000/2102470.stm

Gangs of Asian youths in the north of England are out of control, claims a Labour MP.
Ann Cryer, who represents Keighley in West Yorkshire, says youths, mostly men, are resorting to turf wars and totally disregarding the law.

And she has criticised leading representatives of the Asian communities in the north of the country for burying their heads in the sand and not acknowledging there is a problem.

"The community here is largely Pakistani and there is a strong connection with drugs, possibly because that is where the drugs originally come from.

“There is a strong link between these gangs in Keighley, Bradford and Manchester because much of the drugs come through Manchester airport.”

The Muslim News editor Ahmed Versi is calling for Asians to be given the resources to tackle the problem “within the religion and culture of these communities themselves”.

But Robin Banerji, of the Commission For Racial Equality, believes the problem cuts across racial divides.

“We need to bring these young men - whatever their racial background - back into normal life,” he told BBC News Online.

“It is something we all need to tackle - the police, parents and other agencies and youth services.”

Dr Ghayasuddin Siddiqui said: "The leadership in many of these Asian communities is very old and from the rural areas of Pakistan - first generation immigrants.

"Their minds are frozen in time, their attitude is to push things under the carpet.

“Ann Cryer is the local MP and she knows her own community,” Dr Siddiqui concluded.

Ms Cryer’s comments come in the wake of race riots in Bradford, Oldham and Burnley last summer.

A report commissioned by the Home Office investigating the causes, said people in Britain were leading “parallel” and “polarised” lives and that different backgrounds did not mix.

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They'll grow out of it, trust me.

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Originally posted by Thap:
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No, this behaviour will become embedded in the culture, so other growing up will continue it. Just like Blacks.

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Is the situation as bad as is claimed to be in this article?

I wouldn't doubt if the 'elders' do not think of this 'gang' and 'trouble youth' as a problem as they have probably seen worse in their life time. So, what is the solution?

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There is also a Turkish mafia in UK which doesnt like the Pakistani dominance in gangs. Also there is traditional rivalry between Pakistani and Bangladeshi gangs.

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What a surprise another racist politician raises there ugly head.

Like there is no white gangs or white drug dealers in nothern england.

Few months ago you had this home secratary David blunkett saying muslim people who orgin from pakistan can only get married to people in britain. How racist is that did he say ok only chinese origin people can marry people in britain or white english no he did'nt.

Then you get this conservative MP who i belive is chairwoman of there party saying asian are worth less then 10 cents basically worth nothing.

Then you get Peter hain who is minister for europe i belive who says muslims should let there women to be more free mixing with men in england. And muslims should not stay with there own people funny how he fail to mention middle class white people who only associate with people of there same income bracket and living standards.

This is another part of the war on muslims campaign and islam should not surprise people the governent tricks and manouvers to attack muslims in any way possible.

[This message has been edited by ak47 (edited July 07, 2002).]

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ak47,

How true are his/her statements about the situation of Pakistani British?

You gave us a lecture on how racist they are, which I don't doubt, but I am interested in your views about the Pakistani British community.

Are they involved in drugs & gangs? Were they responsible for riots? What are the elders of the community doing about it all?

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Unless your brought up in suburban bliss, this is part of growing up in the UK as an asian boy.

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“Asian gangs” is just a nice way of refering to Pakistani gangs. Its a well known fact that in England, Pakistanis have a reputation for hoods and thugs.. They are the British equivilent of Blacks in America.
Pakistanis are just not living up to their potential, even in England.

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Living on govt. support/welfare and high unemployment rate in UK among Asians, and in general as well, doesnt help either. They are prolly drwan towards drug trafficiking which can bring them riches overnight

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yeah you have your national front and their goons, the whole skin head uprising in the late 70's and early 80's. thats one side of the equation.

Poverty, unemployment, apathy in some parts of community is another.

Although if I recall correctly the first asian gangs were formed more as a force against the skinhead thugs.

there are socio-economic drivers behind this sudden growth in the asian gangs. Families, ethnic groups, society at lareg and government each has to play a role to solve this.

There are however non-desi gangs as well, which engage in general hooliganism to joyriding and other such noble passtimes.

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adanan may they are from rural areas of pakistan theu could not cope up with sudden
thrust into 21 st century. it is much easier
for kids with educated parents to adjut to new life in adopted country.

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rvikz you are very correct in your last statement. The problems usually occur in populations of desis who are from a rural and generally uneducated or under-educated family background.