arrest mother for sitting with a man: what do you do with this?

goodnews · February 17, 2008, 9:34pm

Re: arrest mother for sitting with a man: what do you do with this?

[quote=“SindSagar, post:14, topic:162407”]

Duniya Abadi ky bomb sy tabah hojaay woh theek hy Abortion ko masla banaty hain, La tadad bachy pyda ker ky duniya or deen ki kia khidmat hoti hy:hoonh:

TeenDabbyWala · February 18, 2008, 1:07am

Re: arrest mother for sitting with a man: what do you do with this?

I love you

Sir, with all due respect you need to understand that there was not a minute possiblility of such obnoxious thing takning place in KSA. Thees people dont allow their women to un-cover face, how can you imagine something like that ? :halo: Ever heard of Women police ? :aq:
There must be women Mutaween (women police ) who must have treated the lady.

And btw, the point in case the report suggested and members condoned that the lady was innocent and wrongly charged. Which was totally un-true as she was guilty of the offese (breaking the well known law) which she admitted in this news report.

You need to know that before enacting a law the govt need to do the ground work.
Islamic laws can not be enforced until the country is a practically a ‘welfare state’

Despite dozens of ills of Saudia Arabia, the counrty takes care of their citizen pretty well.

Education is free for them So is healthcare
There is hardly any un-employement, most of the well paid jobs are offered to their citizen.
No inflation.

So once the govt takes responsibility of its citizens then there is no rationale left for NOT abiding by the law of the state. What is a rationale for a person stealing when govt has offered him all the necesities of life ?

Chopping off hand is symbolic in a way that God saying that this hand was given to you so that you do hardwork and earn respectable living. Once you mis-use this hand and cause grief and loss to fellow human without any rational reason then it must be chopped off.
**
It is simmilar to US law that if an intruder tries to enter your premises with out your permission, then you can warn him/her and subsiquently shoot him. kill him at the spot.
**
On paper this Saudi / islamic law is less harsh than his US law.

Btw, reported crime of stealing/theft is virtually non-existant in KSA

You have actual experience with this, or is this something you have heard? No unemployment in KSA?

Dushwari · February 18, 2008, 1:45am

Re: arrest mother for sitting with a man: what do you do with this?

folks, i kep quiet because it is necessary to hear what everyone has to say on this.

confusing the 'rules' of a state and then alluding to them, as rules of a faith, are two distinct things.

Allah swt made mankind of two genders - female and male.

those people who have issues with their manhood or womanhood or have capricous desirous behavioral intentions, can be amoral in a liberal society or in a conservative one, alike.

people need to realize that as two humanbeings who are not acting obscene, and everyone can tell, what is obscene.

as a society, women and men, should be able to move along each other and face each other. with a transparent heart and mind.
that will make life simple and clean.
state should not have to order, as to who in private or public, meets and dines with whom and how?

best,
Dushwari

TeenDabbyWala · February 19, 2008, 6:36am

Re: arrest mother for sitting with a man: what do you do with this?

An update on this

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=106929&d=19&m=2&y=2008

How does this work? Hospitals in KSA are full of female nurses and doctors who work along their male counterparts. That is not considered mixing?

Code_Red · February 19, 2008, 9:35am

Re: arrest mother for sitting with a man: what do you do with this?

You have rebuttal, then bring forward. If you think my statement is false and not based on facts then says so. I will gladly correct myself :)

Re- no unemployment in KSA.

It is very simple ! Saudi attracts millions of foreigners including Bangladeshi, Indains, PAkistani, Egyptions and many other in the form of unskilled and skilled labour.. So once there is an acute shortage of workforce in a country then it is just a rational conclusion that its own population gets employed at priority.

Code_Red · February 19, 2008, 10:29am

Re: arrest mother for sitting with a man: what do you do with this?

You are right.

Either he gave the wrong statement or he was quoted wrongly.

Women and men work together at work places, Hospitals and business places. One more thing they need to do is show some humility and start to learn the proper way of talking to media :k:

And correct their procedural behaviour if the allegations in this report are correct

Arab News tried to contact officials of the National Society for Human Rights (NSHR) to get its reaction to the commission’s statement, but Bandar Al-Hajjar, president of the organization and his deputy Mufleh Al-Qahtani were not responding.
In a previous statement, Al-Qahtani said his organization would take up the issue and demand clarification from the commission on various human rights violations.

The NSHR wants to know why the commission member had no police escort at the time of Yara’s arrest; why the commission member had no identity badge; how the commission member compelled the woman into a taxi; why Yara was forced to fingerprint the confession under threat; and why the commission did not — in accordance with an Interior Ministry notification issued last year — turn the suspect over to proper police officers.

there should be dicsiplinary action against those officers who did not follow the procedure, if they had any.