Around the crisis

While all this goes on all over the country, certain rather ridiculous perspectives keep raising heads in the background.

http://dawn.com/2007/05/11/local4.htm
Pagara sees martial law after rally on 12th

KARACHI, May 10: Pakistan Muslim League (Functional) chief Pir Pagara said on Thursday that if the May 12 rally saw an outbreak of violence and bloodshed, the ruling establishment would lose no time in declaring martial law.

Speaking at a press conference at Kingri House, he said the political party that had in the past advised its supporters to sell off their TV sets and buy arms would be totally responsible for any untoward incident that might occur during the rallies on Saturday.

He added that in Pakistan momentous decisions were taken in drawing rooms and not in rallies.

Known for making enigmatic statements, he told inquisitive newsmen: “Why are you talking about elections? You should talk about martial law. To my mind, its promulgation is round the corner.

“The army is with Gen Musharraf. The general is supposed to lead while a judge is supposed to dispense justice,” he said cryptically.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\05\12\story_12-5-2007_pg7_13
Asghar asks Musharraf to resign, hand over power to CJP

ISLAMABAD: Tehrik-e-Istaqlal chief Air Marshal (r) Muhammad Asghar Khan on Friday advised President General Pervez Musharraf to resign from his office and handover power to Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry.

Addressing a press conference at the Rawalpindi/Islamabad Press Club, he said the prevailing situation in the country was due to the military interference in politics.

Khan said people in Pakistan had no experience of launching a democratic movement for the establishment of a separate country. He said the nation respected army and considered it their protector. He, however, expressed his dismay over non-availability of a leader like the Quaid-e-Azam.

Reminiscing the past he said, during a 1947 meeting with Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah, he remembered Jinnah raising his finger at army officers and reminding them, “You are the servants of Nation.”

He said if the army had not interfered in politics, the nation would have learned how to run democratic institutions.

“In 1965, the attack in Akhnor in Jammu instigated India to attack Pakistan. In 1971 the generals disintegrated the country but no action was taken against them,” he said.

He said the 1965 incident was replicated in Kargil and a nuclear war was imminent but the US’s interference averted the war.

Khan said if we did not learn a lesson from our mistakes we would lose the “remaining part.” He said the intelligence institutions had created favourable situation for the Taliban, adding that they were now unable to change the atmosphere.

He said there was no writ of the government and that both provincial and federal governments were helpless in the NWFP. “The central government is in confrontation with the lawyers’ community in Islamabad and the only course to resolve the crisis is to hand over power to the chief justice who should be responsible to hold elections in a three-month period,” Khan added.

And the other most important debate that goes on is regarding the ‘Freedom of Media’.
I havent seen any policy, code of conduct, professional ethics or patriotic inclinations or non-bias in the stance so far.
So much so that they even overlook the sensitivity and diff between accurate reporting and showing people dying on screen. I’m afraid Pakistani media is way immature and self-centered so far. Had there been no attack on Geo or no notices by Pemra, their stance would have been quite diff.

So I wonder, if and when we move on beyond this present CJ crisis, where would we stand as a nation?
Secondly, what weightage should be given to views such as the intellectual and farsighted views expressed by Pagara and Asghar Khan…? Is this our level of maturity, in thought, perception, responsibility and so on…?

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Asghar Khan should be given Hilal-e-Pakistan for this wisest of the wise thoughts of his…give the power to CJP…:omg:

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Pagara’s assessement isn’t outright ridiculous and does ring huge bells, but the long term outcome could be rather grave and so careless mentions of martial law arent the right thing…

Meanwhile Musharraf is a bit too relaxed a man to issue such statements. There is emergency everywhere right now ofcourse drastic measures should be taken with care, but being over-relaxed all the time…?;

“No question of emergency in the country”: Musharraf

RAWALPINDI, May 12 (APP): President General Pervez Musharraf on Saturday categorically stated that there was no question of imposing emergency in the country and urged the nation to stand united and peaceful. “There is absolutely no requirement and absolutely no environment for taking such drastic measure so these undercurrents must stop,” President Musharraf said while speaking about rumours of imposition of an emergency in the country, at a ground breaking ceremony of a 165 mega watt power plant.
The President said the matter of reference against Chief Justice sent to the Supreme Judicial Council should not be politicized.
“Let the Supreme Court decide in the interest of the state and absolute justice,” the President said.
The President assured the nation that there was no requirement of any drastic step at all. Terming the matter a “temporary irritant” the President said there was an economic boom and there was a need to sustain economic growth in the country.
“We must stop taking this issue on to the streets and making it into a political issue,” President Musharraf said.

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yeah..abt as funny as Ayub handing power over to another general..here catch the ball.

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:rotfl:

Even those who have always been critical of Musharraf have stated that Ch.Iftikhar can never again be seen as neutral and independent, especially as he is attending clearly political rallies all the time. Many of those who initially supported the CJ on his judicial stand are now voicing deep concern as to where he is leading his movement, and others are saying he should form his own political paty. What is now clear is that Ch.Iftikhar has led the wukla biradri into the realm of street thuggery and political violence - all for his own politcal ambitions and ego.

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If chief of army staff can chair meetings and rallies of a party why cant others!

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I wander sometime if you ever came to Pakistan and met common people known as public… i recently went to a car mechanic where there were quite a few lads fixing cars and while they were fixing it there unanimous decission was that the Mush is not going to go out by himself even if it cost (May Allah have mercy on us) Pakistan … and the only way he is going out of power is through his death…

All the parties exluding MQM and PML(Q) are supporting CJ.. so do u think he is politically bias…? how can he be… or all of them are expecting him to join his party in the future..? or all of them are going to merge into a single party… NO.. the answer is simple that all the parties who have roots in the common people and public knows that the public is behind CJ.. cuz of his honest and upright decissions on dozens of high profile cases and if these parties donot support the CJ they will leave an impression of supporting atrocities and corruption in the public.. and their vote bank with the next generation voters will suffer badly..

Sometime i believe that we have to really leave behind the party lines and think for the Pakistan.. our parties and political association is as long as we have a strong Pakistan… Really do think over it..

I support him for the stand he took against the corruption done by the high profile people on the money of the People of Pakistan… Do you?

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Please donot ask tough question from him…:slight_smile: these are removed from the syllabus..:blush:

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:rotfl: :rotfl:

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Like any other political leader the CJ is stamping on dissent within his own ranks, to get this own way. So much for justice and free thought.

Pro-CJ lawyers launch witchunt against dissenters](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=250208)

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[quote]
“If the people vote for my [Pakistan People's Party] and Parliament elects me as prime minister, it would be an honour for me to take up that role, and General Musharraf would be there as President, so I think a good working relationship between him and me would be a necessity for Pakistan,”
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Benazir Bhutto.

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:smiley: