Hello friends,
I don’t know how true is this news but one of my friends who works here in Pakistani Mission in New York told me that Pakistan Army does not want the restortion of CJP. He told me that during the case of Missing Persons, current COAS was heading ISI ( ISI was main accused party in that case) and he does not want restoration of CJP. Again i don’t know the authenticity of this news. But after the meeting of yesterday between Kiyani,Zardari and Gillani. Zardari seems to b more strong and rigid. So may be there is some truth in this news.
Re: Army's role in restoration of judges.
Unless Ifti is castrated after restoration, he isn't coming back.
What you heard is true.
Re: Army's role in restoration of judges.
^^ ofcourse its true. Why do you think army is backing Zar-dari?
Kiyani was head of ISI during the time when people from Baluchistan and NWFP were nabbed and handed over to USA. He would never want CJ to be back. USA/UK are also backing Zardari.
I think this fight is People of Pakistan v/s AAA (the forces which have traditionally conquered and ruled us).
Re: Army's role in restoration of judges.
if Kiyani did something wrong, he needs to be accountable for his actions, just like anyone else.
^sorry but i had hard time to hold myself 
… man u living in a fools paradise
A Top Military-man tried for his Action in Pakistan … oh well wishful thinking
Re: Army's role in restoration of judges.
^ about time we assert that military is not a holy cow!
^ about time we assert that military is not a holy cow!
^ paaji i'm talking about our mostly jahil qaum ...... they should learn a lesson or two from the Iranian Revolution ...... not that it should result into a shariah-state but the way the People of Iran stood up to Shah's tyranny supported by Military and Inteligence Services
Unfortunatly this qaum is Blind and dumb enough to believe and rally around a crook of highest class ...... and then there the lawyers ...... when a Lawyers demonstartion results in common PPL property burnt down and destroyed within minutes then one may question their socalled noble cause of restoration of jsutice
This is justice for the powerful regardless which way u turn it ..... Thus this country is running from one chaos into next ..... don't be suprised if NS and Co. get their way and r on the run in near future when things get ugly in masses for them ......
Re: Army's role in restoration of judges.
Zero one, i know exactly what your qualms are (because of that whole 'religion' issue and the military leader who enforced it, lets not get into the details of that) but there are incidents where TOP military personnel have been tried. Remember Admiral Mansool-ul-Hassan? He was brought back to Pakistan and tried!
Forget any leaders, we want the restored CJ to act against anyone who may have comitted irregularities.
Army wants best for the country and army knowing that Iftikhar is as corrupt as Devil, it is obvious that Army would not like him to get reinstated. There might be corruption all around Pakistan, but we have to realise that Judiciary is 'mother of all corruption' and when Chief Justice is corrupt than there could be no hope for the country.
Just imagine that ... suppose I am a poor Pakistani and worked hard with desire to become Medical Doctor, and after lot of hard work under unfavourable circumstances, I got enough marks to qualify for admission on merit in Bolan Medical College, an admission that can change my poor life for better. But later I realised that I did not got admission as a third grade student 'Arsalan' wanted to do Medicine too and was given admission depriving me of a place. Now I could go to court against Medical college (regardless of whoever is that 'Arsalan' as long as courts are honest), but could I go to court if that third grade student 'Arsalan' is son of a corrupt thug who is Chief Justice 'Iftikhar' and it was due to influence of Iftikhar that 'Arsalan' got admission depriving me of that opportunity (on merit)? Further, if Iftikhar as Chief Justice could do that then others who have some influence would do that too without fear of courts, knowing that thug as Chief Justice could not stop such nepotism when he himself is guilty of nepotism. Same is true regarding many issues with Iftikhar.
So, one can see how important it is to punish a thug in post of Chief Justice if that CJ starts doing corruption, nepotism, misuse of power, misconduct and malpractices. It is because if such person on CJ post is not punished, than all wrongs would become right in the country (as it would get protection of Judiciary, because CJ himself is guilty of wrongs and of devilish character).
Anyhow, I think that government can do something to get rid of smelly air coming out of Nawaz and filling the propaganda balloon of Iftikhar. That is, reinstating of Iftikhar on condition that investigation of reference sent by Musharraf to SJC and was stopped by SC from getting investigated by SJC gets restarted again, and if Iftikhar comes out of that investigation unscathed than he becomes CJ else CJ go to prison (or home). This would have two effects. One is that all air from balloon of reinstating Iftikhar would disappear and second is that, if allegations on Iftikhar would get proven (most likely it would) than reputation of Iftikhar would disappear amongst illiterate masses too (reputation that is built on propaganda, though all who are intelligent know how devilish Iftikhar is).
Re: Army's role in restoration of judges.
^ try something new please, the huge processions out on the roads right now, so large that the police cant even dare stop them anymore, would just stomp over your accusations. They all want the CJ back.
Re: Army's role in restoration of judges.
Populist views of the punjab do not automatically translate into what is right. Seems some people do not understand the difference between republican democracy and rule by the mob.
Wrong againnnnn!! your flawnalysis is upside down 
CJ to be restored after COAS intervened and had a meeting with President and PM. PM to address the nation shortly.
Populist views of the punjab do not automatically translate into what is right. Seems some people do not understand the difference between republican democracy and rule by the mob.
stirring provincial hatred will not get you far. People from all over Pakistan came to join the march.
Re: Army's role in restoration of judges.
BTW what would happen if CJ is back ???
I mean will he
..... end Pakistans self inflicted misery of Religious motivated hatred/terror ????
..... end corruption even in his ranks and among lawyers ????
..... ensure PPL in SWAT and others areas get their basic Human rights ????
..... ensure NS and Co. pay the price for they also looted the country and countless other (PPP an military) ????
I tell u ..... nothing will change ..... unless PPL start the change in their heart
Re: Army's role in restoration of judges.
If Army is going well, it is very good, Let us hope for good days.
BTW what would happen if CJ is back ???
I mean will he
..... end Pakistans self inflicted misery of Religious motivated hatred/terror ???? ..... end corruption even in his ranks and among lawyers ???? ..... ensure PPL in SWAT and others areas get their basic Human rights ???? ..... ensure NS and Co. pay the price for they also looted the country and countless other (PPP an military) ????
I tell u ..... nothing will change ..... unless PPL start the change in their heart
Why do we have to look at the event as solution for everything? Lets take one step at a time.
Why do we have to look at the event as solution for everything? Lets take one step at a time.
Yaar seriously ..... u mean for each thing i wrote there will be a long march like thingie
well if this is the case, in a country where PPL have time and money for such things on regular basis then they surely can't have big problems to solve
What i mean is simply: Look at all the protagonists ..... they r all crooks in way or the others ..... so who to trust and follow ..... i don't see anybody
PPP, PML, PTI, JI and Co. united against Mushy so the managed to oust him
Now
PML, PTI, JI unite to (almost oust) deal with Zardari
So then
PPP (Zardari-less) , PTI, JI unite against PML
Then
JI and PML unite against PTI .....
..... and if they r not dead, they r still joining hands and marching along
Honestly, the way our govt machinery works it looks like we will need a long march for any of these issues 
Just see how much loadshedding has increased, people are looking at other solutions (generators/solar panels) but no political party has pressurised govt to solve the issue sigh
stirring provincial hatred will not get you far. People from all over Pakistan came to join the march.
Stating fact is not stirring provincial hatred. Nawaz league is a predominantly Punjab based party and so are it's supporters in the long march. If you can't accept these facts that is your own issue.
Re: Army’s role in restoration of judges.
this reminds me of the prediction someone made about pml[q] winning 175 seats