So persians killed Afghans using Baloch. Definately they (Persians) were smart
Not exactly. According to contempory sources, largest representation in the standing army of nadir shah was of Afghans of abdali tribe, about 50 thousands. Among them 16 thousands were elite corps "the immortals" of which ahmad shah abdali was part of. Balochs had rather small representation, only 6 thousands. Mir baloch is saying that balochs "helped" nadir shah against ghilzai rulers of persia. He is forgetting that his balochs along with Afghans, bakhtiari, lur, uzbek, qizalbash and turkmen were paid soldiers of their king. Balochs were ruled by nadir shah, so were afghans and others. Now interesting fact is, nadir shah actually favoured recruitment of his ghilzai opponents. Even Ghilzais had infact larger representation than balochs. One of the top and senior general shah was a ghilzai, azad khan. Other generals were hussien khan qajar, karim khan zund, ali mardan khan etc who were native persians.
in the service of their king my foot! hummm can understand why only 6000 as its very difficult to convince baloch to be recruited in the army of king of another country and another reason for that is nadir shah couldn’t subdue the whole baloch nation ever during the time of nadir shah baloch were not even under the control of khan of kalat Mir Muhabbat Khan Ahmadzai Baloch, baloch consider the rule of Mir Muhbbat khan as illegitimate as he only had support of some baloch sardars not the majority of baloch sardars at all he was a weak ruler he came into power with the help of nadir shah and a tiny minority of baloch sardars that’s why baloch were rebellious through out his era and kept on revolting against nadir shah till the end of his era in 1747
Marathas were professional looters before and after Shivaji :)
Raiding and looting was considered pretty much legitimate in those times. This is how armies were funded. Some armies (like Vikings) were made up solely for raiding, looting and plundering.
We shouldn't really judge actions of generals at that time against norms of today.
Raiding and looting was considered pretty much legitimate in those times. This is how armies were funded. Some armies (like Vikings) were made up solely for raiding, looting and plundering.
We shouldn't really judge actions of generals at that time against norms of today.
In 1739, Admiral Taqi Khan, commander of Nader Shah Afshar’s naval forces, invaded Gwadar balochistan on his way to Sindh. In search of provisions for his starving forces, he ventured into Kech balochistan where the Baloch forces, under the leadership of the ruler of Makran Mir Malik Dinar Baloch,** heavily defeated the Persians, and they were forced to withdraw from Gwadar Reference book (Lockhart, 1938).
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**In 1739, Taqi Khan attempted, under orders from Nāder Shah, to make a combined land-and-sea expedition to Sind, to meet Nāder Shah himself there as he returned with his army from the conquest of Delhi. The expedition was a complete failure; the troops ran short of food and water in the Makrān desert and were harassed and defeated by local Baluchis. The meeting never happened, and Taqi Khan had to pull back to Bandar ʿAbbās iran (Gombroon Diary entries for October and November 1739; Floor, 1987, pp. 46-47)****. **:cb:
So Pathans and Baloch were like Bhaade ki sipahi (soldiers on rent) like Marathas :)
History is not that simply. Nadir shah invaded India because some of his ghilzai enemies had escaped to india and mughal emperor refused to hand them over. On his way back his army was harassed by Afridi pashtuns at khyber pass. Your sikhs on the other hand, made the record of being 100% rented when they served british :). Ika duka resistance tou kar laitay
lol What happened to you, why changing mood. You were just taking pride in the fact that balochs served Nadir shah afshar and went against ghilzai pashtuns as part of Nadir shah’s army. You were so excited to find baloch name in the list of ethnicities serving nadir shah that you not only posted screenshot here but also on other thread.
parai aag main kodna is very much in psyche of all races of sub-continent. aur uss ke liye loot ka maal bhi mile to 100 bismillah :D
Let me share an interesting fact. Nadir shah ordered massacre of delhi-walas because they attacked and killed some of the soldiers of his favourite Afghan corps on street. The same mistake that was committed by persian citizens of isfahan when they attacked amir timur soldiers in the street.
Let me share an interesting fact. Nadir shah ordered massacre of delhi-walas because they attacked and killed some of the soldiers of his favourite Afghan corps on street. The same mistake that was committed by persian citizens of isfahan when they attacked amir timur soldiers in the street.
As if they never killed innocent people all their lives.
History is not that simply. Nadir shah invaded India because some of his ghilzai enemies had escaped to india and mughal emperor refused to hand them over. On his way back his army was harassed by Afridi pashtuns at khyber pass. Your sikhs on the other hand, made the record of being 100% rented when they served british :). Ika duka resistance tou kar laitay
Sikhs resisted Pathans too during rule of Ranjeet Singh, Shah Shuja, grandson of Ahmed shah durrani was kept like caged animal by him. Sikh fought two war after Ranjeet singh, read about it, these are called Anglo-Sikh war.
Brits offered better oppertunity, one was honor of dishonring Mughals in 1857. Brit rule gave Punjab better irrigation system, raliways, postal system and what not
Khalsa and Pashtuns can never give such thing nor it can product much of intellectuals :)
Battle of Attock The Battle of Attock (also known as the Battle of Chuch or the Battle of Haidru) took place on 13 July 1813 between the Sikh Empire and the Durrani Empire.[SUP][3]](Battle of Attock (1813) - Wikipedia)[/SUP] The battle was the first significant Sikh victory over the Durranis.
Battle of Multan Sikh Victory
The Battle of Multan was a battle between a Vizier of the Durrani Empire and the Sikh Empire that started in March 1818 and ended on 2 June 1818 Sikh Victory
Battle of Shopian Sikh Victory
The Battle of Shopian took place on 3 July 1819 between an expeditionary force from the Sikh Empire and Jabbar Khan, the governor of the Durrani Empire province of Kashmir. It was the decisive battle in the 1819 Kashmir expedition Sikh Victory
he Battle of Peshewar took place on May 6, 1834 between the Sikh Empire and the Durrani Empire.[SUP][1]](Capture of Peshawar (1834) - Wikipedia)[/SUP] Maharaj Ranjit Singh had previously won and lost the city twice and sent General Hari Singh Nalwa to capture it. After brief fighting Hari Singh Nalwa forced Sultan Mohammad Khan to evacuate the city.[SUP][2]](Capture of Peshawar (1834) - Wikipedia)[/SUP] A large Afghan force under his brother, Dost Mohammad Khan arrived in support of him but withdrew.[SUP][2]](Capture of Peshawar (1834) - Wikipedia)[/SUP] Hari Singh Nalwa then installed Sultan Mohammad Khan as governor of the city as a vassal to Maharaja Ranjit Singh. Finally Peshawar felt under Sikh rule after 998 years when it was ruled by King Jaipal who was killed by Afghans and territory became a part of Kingdom of Kabul in 1000 Sikh Victory A.D.
Battle of Peshawar (1758)Hindu Maratha Victory
The Battle of Peshawar took place in on 8 May 1758 between Maratha Empire and the Durrani Empire. The Marathas were victorious in the battle and Peshawar was captured. Before that, the fort of Peshawar was being guarded by Durrani troops under Timur Shah Durrani and Jahan Khan. After being defeated by the army of Marathas, they managed to escape the fort and fled to Afghanistan. The victory in this battle is considered a great success for Marathas as now their rule had extended to the border of Afghanistan, located 2000 km far from their capital Pune.
In that wars sikhs fought for their nation, their glories. @the_kaur pointed out that afghans and balochs were rented soldiers of persian. Yes some of them were but not 100% like her sikhs and gurkhas when they rented themeselves to british raj. They didnt fight for khalsa, they fought and died for farangi Queen. Yes some pashtuns also recruited in british indian army but they were notorious for desertions and were not reliable. Bulk of pakhtun nation resisted british raj from 1849 to 1947.
