Are we alone ??

Assalaam-u-alaikum to all,

Yaaro (bro’s and sisters), as somone who is interested in Astronomy/Space I have always wondered what the Islamic perspective is on Life elsewhere in the Universe. I have been to various web sites with translations of the Holy Quran but have been unable to find anything relating to Life other than on the Earth.

From a scientific viewpoint, there is no reason why life should not occure on other planets and solar systems within the Universe. However due to the emmense size of the Universe, bits of it could be populated with other life forms and we’d never know simply because of the time it takes for a signal to travel there and back.

If anyone has come across any websites or books regarding Islam and life in the Universe I would be most gratefull if you could let me know. What are your own feelings/opinions on this subject ?.

Peace and Blessings of Allah Be upon you.


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What Allah hasn’t told us, we don’t need to know - thats what I believe anyway!

We know that Jinn exist. As we can only realise in 3 dimensions, maybe there is life but Allah has chosen not to tell us about it!

Jinn exist in the same places we do.. what dimension are they in then?

Hmm

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CoolDude,

Yes we know Jinn exist because they are mentioned in the holy Quran. They exist in the same dimension as we do but we can't see them .(may be because of what they're made of ?).
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Forgive me yaar but I would have to disagree with you on this one. I respect that it is your belief and who am I to tell you wether it's right or wrong.

But for me personally, I believe that Allah Taala has given us an Intellect and a natural curiosity to search and explore. If he just wanted a bunch of drones who only do what they're told, then humanity would never have progressed or developed. Yes there are many answers to many questions in the Holy Quran. But there are equally as much answers which can only be found through reasoning and exploration.

If you look at many of the modern developments which we take for granted, like the power of flight (jet engines), understanding the Electromagnetic spectrum which then lead developments such as the MicroWave, Radar and Computers. Understanding Atomic Structure and behaviour which led to advances in new Materials. All of these were due to Human curiosity and ability to explore. I don't think Almighty Allah told us everything.. he told us the basics and then gave us a brain to find out the rest. But thats just my personal opinion.

Peace and Blessings of Allah be Upon You.


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I am with Arch Angel on this one. I dont think that God made this entire universe and only put us on earth, that is my personal opinion.

Maybe I am wrong but I am sure someone once told me that there have been references to other beings apart from us.

I really am not sure so Watcher, dont ask me for any sources or proof. of course if someone has evidence contrary to this then I would like to hear it.

Allah knows what we don't is the best way to put it!
But I also agree that god did not create the universe for us(earth) coz when we go away What will there be in space(i'm not sure if Allah mentions in the Quran that he will also finish the Space like he will finish earth!) But then again I might be wrong!!

http://www.islam.org/Video/ibts1.ram

look at the video…Here the presenter quotes an Aya from teh holy quran which says something abt other lifes…

The whole program is interesting…Its not one of those…“Quran has already said that” kind of programs…Its - I think - a documentry on astro-physics with quranic refrences…

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I enjoyed it


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Thanks Who-Me, I will have a look at the video and then give you any feed back.


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Thanks who–me, cuurently the flamin soundcard on my pc aint working

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But anyway that means that there is a possibility of life OUT THERE yes?

yaar Who..Me, I still can't get the vid to work !. either the sight is very busy or I have a crap connection. Real Player Sux !.

I am still trying to find some text based stuff regarding this matter. If you find any, plese let me know or just paste it in here somewhere !.

Peace and Blesings of Allah be upon you.


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ArchAngel, ur right, Allah (SWT) has encouraged us to explore the universe, use our intellect and reasoning.
As for other life in this universe, yes, the Holy Quran does refer to “other” life. I found the following article, i know its long but hopefully you’ll find it helpful.

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Taken from “The Straight Way” - Questions asked by Non-Muslims about Islam, by Shaik A. Kadir. Published by The Muslim Converts’ Association of Singapore. Shaik Kadir, a teacher at MacPherson Institute of Technical Education, is also a writer of several books on Islam.

Question:
Scientists are unsure of the existence of life in other planets. Does the Quran say anything about like in outer space?

Answer:

Some science fiction writers have portrayed outer space creatures with monstrous-looking features in their stories, but so far such creatures have remained in the realm of science fiction.

However, the Quran does allude to life in outer space, thus: “And among His signs is the creation of the heavens and the living creatures He has scattered through them.” (42.29) And: “The seven heavens and the earth, and beings therein, declare his glory.” (17:44)

These verses indicate that there is life in some form or other planets in the galaxies. Until scientific means become more sophisticated to make this discovery, this Quranic statement will remain an unfulfilled prophecy.

What the Quran says about Life in Space
by Shaik Kadir, Sunday Times, Aug. 18 1996

How excited the world has become after the announcement on Aug. 7 that scientists had found possible like on Mars more than 3.5 billion years ago, in remains from a Martian meteorite that fell to Earth some 13, 000 years ago.

Well, if life could exist on Mars in the past and become extinct, could it not spring up in some undiscovered planets in the future, or exist even right now, somewhere billions of light years away?

In short, is the universe changing and expanding?

From the Islamic point of view, it is.

In Islam, the universe, which includes the whole of space and the innumerable stars and planets within, is not static.

The Quran says that God is “steadily expanding the universe”. In human reckoning, this is taking place over billions and billions of years.

On the formation of stars and planets, the Quran points to a “Big Bang” or disintegration theory. It says “the heavens and the Earth were joined together (as one unit of Creation) before God cloved it asunder”.

This reference to the unitary origin of the universe anticipates scientists’ views that the universe originated as one entity from one single element.

Subsequently, it separated into nebulae, galaxies and solar systems, with individual parts breaking away progressively to form new entities, such as stars, planets and other heavenly bodies. Our solar system is perhaps “the lowest heaven adorned with ornaments - the planets”.

The universe is in indescribably so huge and contains numerous solar systems, each perhaps bigger than ours. A such, is it not possible for some far-flung planet ot planets to be conducive for some form of life to exist?

A verse in the Quran reads: “And among God’s signs is the creation of the heaven and the Earth, and the living creatures He has scattered through them.”

When seen in the light of modern science, this verse certainly points to the fact that life in some form is scattered through some of the millions of heavenly bodies in space, and not just confined to Earth.

According to Islam, man’s role is a continuous fact-finding mission for progress. He can explore space and use it to his advantage, such as sending up satellites for communication purposes and space stations for exploration.

The Quran says: “See you how God has made subservient to you whatsoever is in the skies and showered on you His blessings, both manifest and hidden.”

Islam does not hinder progress as long as it is carried out without harming other human beings and creation.

Now let us consider this: Just as “primitive life” ended on Mars billions of years ago, would it not be possible for life to disappear from Earth too, one day?

The Quran says: “If you can pass beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth, pass you.”

Perhaps before life on Earth also ends as Mars’ did, it would be exciting to discover if life exists outside our small planet.

As Professor Richard Zare of Stanford said in his article, “Go Where No Man Has Gone Before (Life!, Aug. 13): We must not shrink from the challenge to explore the new worlds that await us in the cosmos.”

http://www.themodernreligion.com/index2.html

HK... Thank You, Very inspiring article !, I will also take a look at the link you provided and get back to you. Subhaan-Allah, all the answers are in the Holy Quran..it just takes a little time to find them !.

Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon you.


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Archangel, ur right. All the answers are there in the Al-Quran, its upto us to discover them and find meaning in their wisdom. These answers have begun to make more sense over time as humans have made advances in the fields of science and technology. I came across something else you might want to take a look at: http://www.islam.org/CyberTV/ch19.htm

I agree with the possibility of life on other planets.

Simply due to the nature, that if on Earth we evolved as human beings.

Elsewhere, the same could have taken place.

Arai

HK.. Thankyou !... I have had a chance to take a closer look at the two links you provided. they are both excellent sites and between them they cover very interesting ground !.

Personally, I think that from a scientific perspective, most scientists have come the accept the possibility of life elsewhere in the Universe, eventhough we can't (as yet) detect it. I think it would be extremely naive of us to think that Earth is the only planet in the whole universe to support life.

Even if you look at if from a purely scientific point of view, then there is nothing to suggest that the conditions under which life flourished here on earth, cannot be replicated on another planet. Life on other planets may not look exactly like us and it/they may or may not be as advance as us... but it's still life !.

I just wanted to know what the Quranic/Islamic view was on life elsewhere in the Universe, since its not a subject which is covered all that often. and now I know !.
Thanks again for your help.


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no problem!!

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And as the saying goes.

'If we are alone in the whole universe - what a waste of space it is'

blackzero,

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'If we are alone in the whole universe - what a waste of space it is'
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ditto to that bro !.. I assume you've seen the film from which that was taken ?.. Contact.? Good film, If you haven't seen it yet.. do so !.

Well I don't know what else to say guys.. I mean I have found the answers I was looking for (ie confirmation in the Holy Quran about Life in the Universe). well now I guess we watch the skies and wait for that day when we can greet some other life form with those immortal words.... ** 'We come in peace for all mankind'** .. yeh I know... I've been watching way too many Sci-fi movies !.

Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon you


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[This message has been edited by Arch-Angel (edited October 31, 2000).]