I am sorry u don't make any sense "may b it was girl's fault ..."
in your mind u think a "good muslim girl" doesn't have a right to speak up...I disagree with u. your absolutely wrong there caz girls have a right to speak as much as any normal human beings would like to and do u want them to suffer and sacrifice all the time??? Listen Mr…. girls have their own life and heart too...They are not born so guys can do harmful thing to them and do whateva they want with them…don’t respect them and just tell them to shut up caz a “good Muslim girl” don’t speak up…That’s not ISLAM… don’t combine our paki culture and ur stupid thinking with Islam… CHANGE UR THINKING PLZ….
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:D. but dosnt ISLAM de-man-d sufrin n sacrifys?
dun al gud moslem gurlz - esp in ar pakistani cultur - tink of oder divorcd moslem gurlz as pathetic pitiful slutz hu shuda stuk it aout in any marij hausoeva bad?
i vas unda da impresun our cultur n my stupid thinking VER islam. hmmm....
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*Originally posted by Roman: *
Irem, quite frankly this blabber of yours about drinking is getting a bit too much. It only shows how much stubbornly close minded you're. A lot of ullu kay pathay mard who don't drink also divorce their wives. A lot of men who drink treat their wives with respect and love. This looks more like a case of that guy's being an ullu ka patha in terms of his overall attitude towards women and relationships and got nothing to do with his drinking. He'd have probably done the same even if he was not drinking.
Take my advice and stop shooting down people who drink 'cause one of these days someone is gonna tell you to shove it. Anyone is free to drink out of his/her choice much as you're free to live a musalah ridden life.
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Romeo, bhaijaan tussi tey bura mana gai...Why? No one is stoping you from drinking...drink all you want. Just don't divorce...then you will fall in the same category of divorced drunkards or will it be Drunk divorcee. :P
LISTEN....IT DOESNT ALWAYS HAVE TO BE A GIRL.... GUYS SHOULD'NT GO OUT OF LIMITS.... DON'T U THINK HOW MUCH PAIN THAT GIRL MIGHT BE GOING THRU???HIS HUSBAND RUNNING AFTER A WOMAN WHO IS OLDER THAN HIM&OTHER BAD THINGS HE IS DOING....IT'S SHOWING HE DOESNT CARE ABOUT HER WIFE OR RESPECT HER....AFTER THEIR DIVORCED , HE MARRIED THE OLD WOMAN...GIRLS HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK UP CAZ U CAN'T TRUST A GUY..THEY MIGHT BE DOING SECRET WEDDING WITHOUT TELLING THEIR CURRENT WIFE..ALL I M SAYING IS....IN A RELATIONSHIP. GUYS SHOULD SACRIFICE TOO.SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT HIS WIFE WANTS..GIRLS ARE ALWAYS THE 1 WHO TRIES NOT TO TAKE THIS STEP BUT WHEN U SACRIFICE AND SUFFER A LOT THEN U HAVE TO DO IT CAZ UR LIFE BECAME MISERABLE...
I'M SORRY GIRLS CAN'T SACRIFICE ALL THE TIME CAZ THEY HAVE A HEART TOO.....GUYS THINK THEY CAN MISTREAT THEM HOWEVA THEY LIKE CAZ THEY ARE THEIR PROPERTY.
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*Originally posted by 7531598246: *
:D. but dosnt ISLAM de-man-d sufrin n sacrifys?
dun al gud moslem gurlz - esp in ar pakistani cultur - tink of oder divorcd moslem gurlz as pathetic pitiful slutz hu shuda stuk it aout in any marij hausoeva bad?
i vas unda da impresun our cultur n my stupid thinking VER islam. hmmm....
HEY I M NOT SAYING THEY HAVE RIGHT TO JUST LIKE GUYS…
WELL DO U KNOW..GIRLS AUTOMATICALLY GET ATTACHED TO THEIR HUSBANDS.A MAN DON’T EVEN RELIAZE THAT…WHEN THINGS ARE MISERABLE,TERRIBLE,HORRIBLE,OUT OF CONTROL..GIRLS CAN TAKE THIS SETP… DON’T POINT OUT THAT IT WAS HER FAULT..
the word "ullu ka patha" has never made so much sense before.
sorry to hear about that girl, irem.
my best friend drinks ( no she is not muslim) but that doesnt make her a bad person. infact, she is much better than lot of muslim pakistani girls i know. :-)
If u look at Pakistani culture, it's full with such absurd traditions, unfortunately. According to Islam, Girls are suppose to obey their parents n husbands but up till a certain point. If one's husband beats her up and demands things that are totally unislamic for a girl to do, she can just say "No" n demand divorce, if she thinks living a life with such husband is not possible. It is true that in Pakistan, if a girl demands divorce, the is considered as a slut but its totally the fault of the minds of the people living there. Many people will just make their daughters marry somebody without even asking them, but does it mean that it's Islamic?? No, it is soooo not. Many Pashtunes sell their daughters ( when somebody asks the parents for the hand of their daughter, the parents will take money to let the guy marry their daughter), but is it Islamic NO, yet the gov't or the rest of the people don't mind watching it or letting it happen. In Sindh, the 7 year old was forced to marry a 40 year old by the order of Jirga, is it Islamic, No. Yet no body says anything against it, cuz either the people are afraid to speak up or it has become a culture of that particular region or country. But if people of a country practice something, it doesn't mean that its the way of the religion. Unfortunately, in Pakistan, all this absurd laws are made by man, n followed by uneducated women! It is very sad that people let this happen. I think if a girl deserves to get a divorce, she should n she should be respected just like others cuz its not her fault that her husband is, sorry to say that, an animal ( I am so sorry to used strong language but it makes me really mad n sad)if you actually went out of your way and read the quran and looked at the hadiths you would see that islam does not condone, but condemns the behaviour of such husbands as mentioned above.the kind of ignorance of islam that you are showing is only fuelling the perception that westerners have that islam is an oppressive religion towards women. in fact islam is the only religion that gives as much rights to women that it does to men. the mentality of pakistani men leans more towards culture than religion where a wife is thought of as a 'chapal' with no feelings or needs of her own, just there to be used and abused. I am not saying that all pakistanis think like this .
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Two lessons..try before you buy
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hahahahah
A friend of mine is going thru a divorce and he was asked by someone..OH you're so nice and sweet..what happened? Why are you getting divorced..?
He responded " b/c i drink..i smoke..i ran aroudn with women and I beat her..." ahem he was joking about what picture his ex is probably painting right now
...but my point is in desi divorces people always will paint the other party in the most negative light they can...of course irem, i'm notsaying your friend is not innocent in this..just saying we all just hear one side..and marriages are much more complext.
2nd,I think too many desi parents marry their boys to "sudhr" them and it doesn't work..so it ruins another life...I blame the boys parents for not wanting more for their niece..but instead they were selfish and wanted to "fix" their son by marrying him to a good girl....forget about the suffering she would go thru.
