Are the present days muslims following the ritualistic part of the religion ???

[StormRaiser]

Re: Are the present days muslims following the ritualistic part of the religion ???

@psyah

Peace StormRaiser

In this case the intentions of the poster are the most important thing. I am not side-tracking I can answer all the queries but the contentions are not phrased in a way that makes it seem you are interested in a reasonable discussion. You need to remember that you are the non-Muslim and I am the Muslim giving you our point of view … Instead you want to argue with me that my views are no shared by Muslims or that in order for Muslims to be progressed they need to follow your view.

Agree with your perspective and understand that the perspective from a muslim would be different from a non-muslim. I understand for a dialogue to happen we would have to understand where the other person is coming from. At then end if an agreement cannot be reached we should agree to disagree in a civil manner and move on.

@psyah

Now you asked a question … Let’s take them one at a time … You said something about 4th in line to husbands … And that you say is somehow as wrong as fornication and adultery … First of all you need to explain what you mean … by 4th in line to husbands … If you are talking about sharing the husband in conjugal activity … Then well it makes sense that those who come last will get their husband for longer. Also, they can rotate a different pattern each week. It’s not a major cause for concern … But the point I want to make is not about promoting polygamy, but promoting monogamy which is what current day Muslims do and the majority of us are like this based on the early Muslims … To raise this as somewhat of a major concern is making mountains out of mole hills … It is a non-issue, but if you want us to change our view that is not gonna happen as it is in the Qur’an … And we do not alter our Deen. We merely accept it as our domain of what is or is not permissible. Just like divorce is not preferred but permissible, in a similar way polygamy is the same. Now I hope we can move from this this non-issue now.

Let us take your argument of people being promiscuous and all that and that was the reason why polygamy is allowed. Let me take this argument further and ask you if you know men who are monogamous. In the present day society, polygamy is generally refrained and there are people who are loyal to his wife. Do you think for a man being monogamous is not possible because by nature he is promiscuous. You are skating on very thin ice here sir if I can say so. If you use the excuse of promiscuity to defend polygamy, you are using one wrong to correct another wrong. People with loose morals would always be people with loose morals and will find loopholes. Examples of people divorcing one wife to marry another to keep the count to four is something that is not unheard of.

My argument was that in the 6th century Arabs were used to marrying as many as they could afford and if monogamy was imposed, there would have been stiff resistance. Hence the need to restrict and not totally ban.
A husband and wife are supposed to be emotionally attached and have no secrets between them and marriage should be a union of two souls. If there are multiple involved, there can be causes for jealousy and what not. The ladies would constantly be comparing themselves with each other which would lead to unhealthy competition. In my opinion it is demanding for the wife to be part of the circle of wives. If my memory is correct, the prophet(pbuh) himself forbade his son-in-law to marry again till the time his daughter was alive. Hence my personal opinion is that polygamy should be ended. It is not as if certain practices were stopped which later became tools for exploitation. From a sunni perspective mutah was stopped by a later caliph because people were misusing the law.

I could not reply earlier since I was travelling and was totally occupied.