Are the present days muslims following the ritualistic part of the religion ???

[StormRaiser]

Re: Are the present days muslims following the ritualistic part of the religion ???

@psyah

Peace StormRaiser

1. Polygamy should be viewed alongside fornication and adultery … Today the modern world has no answers for us to fight fornication and adultery so polygamy is the better way.

Have you ever wondered how women would feel if they are 4th in line to their husbands. You cannot counter one evil with another.

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2. Slavery of the early Muslim era basically gave rights to the slaves … This in modern language is the same as a slave being converted in to an employee. If anyone has a job and works under contract of employment then this is the same as slavery according to the Islamic understanding of slavery. The slave trade of the Americas gave slavery a bad name … Today an ex-pat living in the Middle East is a slave in the Islamic sense, there are no longer any slaves without rights and that concept was abolished in the time of Sayyiduna Muhammad (SAW) already. If the taking of slaves sounds harsh say in a war situation then think of it like this … That the nations taken over by the Muslims, the people would be employed by their Muslim employers … Sounds like a favour doesn’t it? Yes, exactly as the British empire made employees out of us in the subcontinent … They called us over to their countries and made us ‘employees’ … And later we have rights to own land and businesses that would make us free … So you really need to understand what slavery means in the Islamic context.

And the owner of the slaves had the right to sleep with the slaves. Yes you will talk about consent from the slave, but then what choice does the slave have. Your comparison of employee and slave is absurd to say the least. Employees are protected from harassment and the like, but what rights do slaves have rather than to be subjugated. Your attempt to give Americans the bad name for slavery is not right. They found that it was wrong and then stopped it. It is not that in the present day they are still dreaming of a time when they can own slaves.

@psyah

3. 72 virgins? This is not even worth a comment, but I would like to say that the idea of virginity is a translation error … As the English translation focuses on the sexual implication, whereas the original idea of virgin in Islam is more like virgin olive oil … i.e. that it is pure and unadulterated in a holistic way.

So you are implying that only virgin oil is awaiting you heaven. How many shcolars agree to this interpretation..

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4. All forms of interest is usury … This is a huge subject and not befitting for this response. The prophet Muhammad (SAW) said, that towards the end times the whole world would be dealing in usury, and those who would not actively consume it would be covered in its dust. So your argument about the world being usurious is true, but it does not mean we have to accept that. We can change it, but we don’t try hard enough.

So what are doing to change it. It is very easy to be an armchair advocate and claim that it needs to be changed. What is the alternative. Islamic Banks are Normal banks with another name.

@psyah

5. Music is a recognised doorway to evil by all societies, it has some good effects, but many dangers stem from it as it has the ability to bend our emotions when there is no sensible cause for those emotions to be there.

It is your thought and this is not shared by most of the people including muslims. It is soothing and relaxing. If you have to live in a world devoid of all emotions then good for you…

@psyah

6. Pictures, no education and tall buildings … Yes, there is no current capability, but the standards of Yale is not one to aspire to either … Modern universities are about how to put more clones in to the capitalistic-consumeristic framework …

If I understand correctly no pictures of living beings are to be taken. If that is the case, you would never know what certain animals looked like and our knowledge of the earth as we know it would be a lot lesser. If Yale is not the one to aspire what in your opinion is the knowledge to be aspired for. The amount of research has made our lives a lot easier than the life we had in the 6th century. Well you may have the opinion that the 6th century life was better in so many respects. For your information there are places in the world that can be mirrored to the life they had in 6th century.. It is time to move.