Are people of Pakistan really against President Musharraf?

Unpopularity of President and impeachment: Well, we all know that President Musharraf had already decided before election ‘2008’ to give a rest to PML(Q) and bring PPP (actually BB) into power. That is the reason NRO was issued and BB was called in. She got every protocol plus plenty of government supports while she was alive. She was even getting every security (something exceptional for opposition leader in third world) and should not have died if she had not taken her head out of hole. Her party along with JUI(F) indirectly even supported President Musharraf election as PPP along with JUI (Fazlu) could have resigned from Parliament and could have forced new election before Presidential election.

Only mentally incapables would say that PPP and JUI (P) before election was against President Musharraf. No one can also say that ANP was against President Musharraf either (though they had no seats in NA, their party stayed in opposition with PML(Q) in NWFP supporting every act of government actions in NWFP at Provincial level and in Senate at National level). If BeNazir would have been alive than I doubt if PPP would have formed government with PML(N) as partner.

Actually, it was obvious for every Pakistani voters before election of ‘Feb 2008’ that group of thugs who were against Presidency of President Musharraf are Qazi, Imran, Itezaz, and Jokers of PML(N). Further, it was also obvious that a group of lawyers and Journalists on payroll of Nawaz are doing everything, including spreading of lies and propaganda, to malign President. Thus, one can say with certainty that there was only one party in Feb 2008 election, that is PML(N), with agenda against President Musharraf, and all who were against President boycotted the election to join with that party and gave their full support to that party. Crooks who were against President boycotted election were doing everything to get PML(N) in power, and their supporters instead of boycotting, voted PML(N) in election.

If Pakistani voters were against President Musharrraf than they knew that to vote PPP, PML(Q), MQM, ANP, JUI(F), and independents (as most independents were with government before election), would be voting for continuity of President Musharraf, so they should have voted PML(N) in election. But PML(N) got partly 6.7 million out of over 80 million registered vote (8 out of 100). Well, they got around 19 percent of around 37 million cast votes, almost all in Punjab (6 million out of their total 6.7 million votes). Actually, the party that was against Musharraf (MMA) just in name also got wiped out of election getting around 1 percent of cast votes.

So, how Liars, thugs, crooks, Jokers, and lowly people of PML(N) keep ranting that 16 crore awam want Musharraf out of power? If being abusive on roads according to their lowly character, bringing few tens of thousands people from population of 160 million in one part of the Country (North Punjab), paying some civil thugs to talk for them against Musharraf, buying lawyers to dance on road, spending money on corrupt journalists to propagate obvious lies, etc … and all this is the criteria of showing unpopularity of a person than any Tom Dick and Harry with few billion rupee budget and service of corrupt media could do that. It is obvious that thugs of PML(N) have enough looted and plundered money to throw and they are doing that. Nevertheless, one thing is obvious and that is, by showing that lowly character on roads, these jokers are harming no one except themselves.

Re: Are people of Pakistan really against President Musharraf?

Don't be bitter. I believe PML(Q) won overwhelmingly. :) Don't you?

Re: Are people of Pakistan really against President Musharraf?

kiya man gharat kahaniyaan ghertey rehtey hoo
chor zerdary, chor benazir and chor musharaf k wakeel

koi kam shamm kiya keroo

PML-N rocks
mujhay koi rishwat nahy dy, but i know and i have seen their work
2 numbery her jaga hoty hai
and PMLN is far far far better then
mush
and zerdary

aitzaz and imran should join PML-N for some time to get this country out of hell

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wow PML N must have alot of money
even more than america
who love to buy

u r a low life joker saleem
i pitty u

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What a joke. Some people are so blinded by their love for the dictator, that they would rather tear Pakistan apart.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/15/world/asia/15pstan.html?hp

An opinion survey released by Gallup Pakistan last week reflected Mr. Sharif’s sentiment. The director of Gallup Pakistan, Ijaz Shafi Gilani, said the survey showed that “a majority opinion in the country now wants to punish him before he is allowed to exit.”
The survey, taken among a sample of 1,500 men and women in rural and urban areas in four provinces in late May, showed that 61 percent believed that he should “punished for violating the Constitution of the country.”

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^ interesting. I wonder if anyone of those 1500 can tell us what the first article of the constitution is anyway.

its not thier job to remmember the constitution
if yes
to hakumat by unhy ko de do

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To Sa1eem!

Is this ur personal opinion or u copied/ heard it from someone?

:hmmm:If one would say (or write) that majoirty of people in Pakistan are Muslim than would you ask that: ‘Is that your personal opinion or u copied/heard it from someone?’ :omg:

What I wrote above, is that opinion? I do not even consider that ‘opinion’ but I consider what I wrote above is ‘fact’ written on the wall and apart of complete ignorant of Pakistani political situation on ground before election 2008, everyone knows. For those who intentionally want to forget, they just needed to get reminded:halo:

well said!

no educated person will say Musharaf is wrong! only those who have been bought are only shown one side of the picture say all this Nawaz clowny and corrupt zardari talks!!!!

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I have seen only urdu speaking people supporting dictator. Maybe because of his ethnicity.

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^ oh another twist.. :khumar:

Maybe thats because in the last 6 years Karchites feel their city has progressed?

I too get the feeling that Musharaf is far more popular with Karchites than say
Punjabis, Balochis, Sindhis, Pashtuns.

I bumped into a handful of people who supported Musharaf out of my stay 9 week stay there. Most people hate him. The only thing they worry about is the chaos it could cause to removed him. they know pakistancant afford.

You mean:
Pakistan Har-fun-Maula: Pir Pagara
Prime Minister: Yousuf Raza Gillani
Defence Minister: Ahmed Mukhtar
Parliamentary President of PPP: Amin Fahim
Opposition Leader in NA: Pervaiz Illahi
Gujrat ka Chuadhry: Shujaat Hussain
Pindi ka Raja: Sheikh Rasheed
Jhang ka Shahzada: Faisal Saleh Hayat
Mianwali ka Bahadur: Sher Afgan Niazi
Tharparkar ka Jawan: Arbab Ghulam Rahim
Minority leader: MP Bhandara
Only Journalist who is khandani billionaire and incorruptible: Ardeshir Cowasjee
Most notable Baloch woman politician: Zobaida Jalal

Well, over 8 million people who voted for PML(Q), 10.5 millions who voted PPP (with expectation that PPP would form government with Musharraf as President), million others who voted parties that were supporting Musharraf every steps ... and millions who are quietly supporting Musharraf (like Fazlur-Rahman of JUI and others)... are they all urdu speaking Karachiets?

Do you think that known Zani, convicted Terrorist, famous Liars, numerous Retards and number of crooks, is that all ony Pakistanis?

Brother, the things u call facts are fantacies of ur mind or following the propoganda suits… so please elaborate what do u mean by fact…

Talk about general public not politicians. As far as PML Q is concerned bye elections are near. You will see once and for all the popularity of this hollow party :)

Fact is that NRO was issued so that BB could come to Pakistan, contest election and help President in fighting extremists.

Fact is that, in Presidential election JUI(F) and PPP did not resigned to keep the assembly going and let President get elected before election.

Fact is that, Supreme Court gave legality to President Musharraf contesting Presidential election by allowing him to contest with his uniform and Wajih-uddin gave further legality by trying to challenge Musharraf bid for President by contesting Presidential election against Musharraf. To just stop notification does not change anything, as when election was allowed, Musharraf legality to contest election was allowed, then result has to be legal regardless of its getting official notification or not.

Fact is that, it was not just PML(Q) that was supporting Musharraf but PML(Q), MQM, PPP(Patriots), PPP(Shp), PML(F), NPP, many independents, most MNAs and Senators of FATA and many others (including some of MMA) voted for President Musharraf in Presidential election and were with President.

Fact is that only people that were against President Musharraf before election, and went in election as party that wants to get rid of President, were those who boycotted to contest the election but supported the party of convicted terrorist Nawaz PML(N) with their vote in election.

[Actually, even terrorist Nawaz came to Pakistan due to deal but he was contesting election as such, trying to attract all votes that was against Musharraf, be that vote belongs to religiously retarded or old corrupts of his party, still the best he managed was less than 8 out of 100 registered vote (6.7 million out of over 80 million registered vote) ... that was less than 19 out of 100 cast votes (6.7 million out of over 36 million cast votes)]

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Musharraf is now the most disliked dictator in the country, even Zia the idiot had some things going with him, where the people supported him to some extent, but Musharraf on the other hand is just outright disliked. The only little support he has is from some MQM supporters, thats it.

Sunday, June 15, 2008

By Tariq Butt

ISLAMABAD: The historic long march not only put tremendous pressure on three key individuals and institutions to withdraw their support to President Pervez Musharraf and let the deposed judges be restored, it also raised the popular profile of the PML-N supreme leader Nawaz Sharif.

Even stalwarts of pro-Musharraf PML-Q admitted to this correspondent that pressure on the president had mounted to call it a day because of the successful long march, which raised the heat on him.

“The sole purpose of the long march was to intensify pressure on Musharraf to quit because Nawaz Sharif, the main player behind this show, pressed this demand more than calling for the reinstatement of the deposed judges,” a PML-Q leader said on condition of anonymity.

However, former information minister Muhammad Ali Durrani did not agree. “If any pressure was exerted by Friday’s protest, it was on parliament and the government, not Musharraf,” he told The News.

The long march, he said, failed to achieve its objective – instant restoration of the sacked justices. “What is its achievement? What was this exercise all about?” he asked.

Pressure on PPP Co-chairman Asif Zardari, the government, parliament and the Pakistan Army also enhanced, in the words of a PPP leader, to give a ‘decent send off’ to Musharraf or there will be no political calm and stability.

Nawaz Sharif’s powerful call for resignation of Musharraf more vociferously than his demand for return of the judges is unlikely to be accepted unless the Army revokes its support to the president although many people believe that political peace would return (may be temporarily) only after Musharraf’s exit from the scene.

“The long march was a political gimmick to play to the galleries and gain political mileage because an agreement has already been hammered out between the PPP and the PML-N about bringing back the judges and the only question now left is its implementation. The first element of it has been translated into reality when the strength of the Supreme Court judges is being enhanced through the Finance Bill with the consent of the PML-N,” a senior PPP leader said.

He said the announcement that Nawaz Sharif had made on his return from Dubai after holding a crucial round of talks with Zardari was going to be implemented. He reminded that the PML-N leader had accepted the continuation of the judges, who had taken oath under the Provisional Constitution Order (PCO).

“Pressure increased on Musharraf to stand down because the long marchers’ major demand was his resignation but as far as the question of reinstatement of the judges is concerned, he is not the one who has the authority to do so. It is Zardari, his government and parliament that matter more than the president or anybody else,” a PML-Q leader said.

A somewhat frivolous debate has been going on in some talk shows in which questions were raised about the justification to put pressure on the sovereign body, parliament, for return of the judges.

It is a universal democratic practice to stage demonstrations before parliaments to make certain demands of it.

Many raised eyebrows over the abrupt end of the epic long march after the rally because its organisers, especially Aitzaz Ahsan, had announced during his campaign to stage a sit-in before the parliament building and continue it till the acceptance of their demand – restoration of the deposed judges.

Even Jamaat-e-Islami chief Qazi Hussain Ahmad, who significantly contributed to the long march, is disgusted over the non-realisation of the declaration that the long marchers would stage a long sit-in. “I think that now the lawyers cannot achieve it [reinstatement of judges] on the basis of their lies because they are divided now; the People’s Party lawyers are not with them and the ANP lawyers are not with them in the NWFP. The only lawyers supporting their movement are the lawyers of Nawaz Sharif and the Jamaat-e-Islami. And because of this division amongst themselves, they have been planning it [the long march] for one year and now they have done it, they cannot do it again. It is the work of the political parties to arrange if they want the basic objective [to be achieved]. The lawyers’ movement could not succeed without the support of the Jamaat-e-Islami and the PML-N. These were the two parties, which openheartedly supported the movement. The participants were the activists of these two parties,” he told Dr Ahmad Muffaq Zaidan, the bureau chief of Al-Jazeera TV in Islamabad.

The mammoth gathering before the parliament building was an outpouring of the 15-month-long campaign of lawyers and political parties. It was the pinnacle of this struggle. To collect such a huge number of people again will not be possible. But its organisers, chiefly the PML-N, have the conviction that this protest has served the last blow to Musharraf and will force him out of the presidency.

The PPP, the PML-Q and other political parties agree uninhibitedly that Nawaz Sharif is the main gainer of the long march while Asif Zardari is the principal loser. They concede that Musharraf’s political fortunes have further plummeted.

It was the first time in Nawaz Sharif’s political career spanning twenty-five years that his party succeeded to collect such a large number of people at one place. He is known to be a vote-getter, not a crowd-puller. His previous public rallies had not been so impressive compared to assassinated Benazir Bhutto’s meetings.

Never before a sitting federal government put not even a minor roadblock to scuttle a protest that was even going to damage it or a Punjab government fully contributed to its success. This approach and facilitation led to holding, continuation and culmination of the long march in a peaceful manner.

Re: Are people of Pakistan really against President Musharraf?

some people beleive in the corner meeting whinings than the opinion polls which place Musharraf as the least popular person in Karachi

Its not a politically correct statement.