Are Pakistanis more polite than westerners?

Seems like lot of people are not happy with how judges are dealing with contestants on the Pak idol show.

Pakistan’s answer to Simon Cowell angers TV viewers - Telegraph

Pakistan Idol is everything you would expect from the familiar global franchise. Young hopefuls sing their hearts out on stage under the watchful eye of a panel of judges who then offer their thoughts – some constructive, some less so.

In a country where politeness is an art form and saying what you really think is the height of vulgarity, the judges’ “Simon Cowell” moments have brought an angry backlash.

Pakistan Idol judge Ali Azmat (pink shirt) has been condemned for mocking contestants

In one notorious exchange, Ali Azmat, lead singer with the band Junoon, mocks a male singer’s high pitched voice and then starts dancing with his head and hands in a style more generally associated with troupes of performing transvestites across South Asia.

Social media have been abuzz with condemnation and a public petition has attracted almost 1500 signatures demanding a public apology from the show’s makers for humiliating contestants.

“Also I would require an assurance that such behaviour will not be repeated in future, and if at all a contestant does not fit the criteria, he/she would be given positive criticism which helps him/her grow,” runs the petition.

In a country riddled by Islamic extremism, Pakistan Idol was hailed as a crucial opportunity to reclaim the country’s cultural heritage from conservatives and give traditional music a chance to flourish among a new generation of wannabes.

Auditions ran in some of the most troubled parts of the country, including Swat, a region overrun by the Taliban as recently as 2009 and where Malala Yousafzai, the schoolgirl activist, was shot last year.

The show’s first run in Pakistan began earlier this month and producers say their viewing figures make it a smash hit. In part, they say, the attraction is down to the acerbic approach of the judges.

In one of the early episodes they mock Naveed Ali, a student, for his squeaky voice.

“Leave it, do you remember some nursery rhyme, Oh frog, oh frog jump in the water) or sing twinkle twinkle little star. That would suit your voice,” said Mr Azmat, before asking why he thought he could sing.

The exchange prompted viewers to complain that the judges were trying too hard to ape the brasher attitude of the American show - and Simon Cowell in particular – without the humour and without regard to Pakistan’s rather genteel sensibilities.

“Here, it seems that the judges are trying overly hard to channel the mocking nature of their American counterparts, especially Simon, but failing miserably,” wrote Noman Ansari, a blogger.

Not that the criticism has affected Mr Azmat, who has been baiting his critics on twitter this week.

And the producers are unrepentant.

A show insider said: “It’s a bit of a culture shock. This is not a place where people say what they think - well not in public, at least – but it’s all part of the show.”

Imran Aslam, the president of Geo TV, the channel that bought the rights to the Pop Idol franchise, promised not to tone down the criticism.

“There’s certainly been some criticism of the judges but it should be taken in the spirit of the show,” he said. “If someone can’t sing, well then they can’t sing.”

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I think the whole idea is of the franchise to have the judges behave rudely! So its an act they have to do to keep the “rude” image on…Gosh, what has this world become? Cashing on rudeness. Lol.

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Pakistanis aren’t polite. I’ve never saw any Pakistan may it be in Pakistan or here every say excuse me or hold the door. I’ve seen them treat the beggars with disdain. People in Pakistan would straight up go ape sh*t insane on you if you have a small argument. Up to a point of taking out guns.

I have yet to see a polite Pakistani. They may fake it with the goras, but among each other, Hell to the no. Apart from saying the “customary and forced” Salam. That’s about it.

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I don’t think they are.

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trp nothing else

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Ali Azmat is no Simon Cowel. He’s putting on an act to garner ratings and attention, nothing else. Unfortunately for him, it makes him look like a jacka$$, whereas being gruff and contrite is and has always been Simon’s personality.

As as far as politeness or “genteel sensibilities” goes , I don’t think Pakistanis are any more or less polite than anyone else. You find your good and your bad in every culture. I think some Pakistanis are more stubborn and bullheaded than others, but I can’t brush off an entire nation with one stroke.

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This.

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Oh gosh, did you see that video clip on FB lately? Its brutal.

Simon is boo’d because he doesn’t beat around the bush and tells it like it is. And he can be rude about it.

Ali Azmat? Three words: tacky…tasteless…classless.

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Exactly! Ali Azmat, (and the whole judging panel actually) is soooo cringe worthy!!!

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I second this.

As for the Azmat vs Cowell, who gives a hoot?

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What is interesting is… the level of intellect (or lack thereof) that would lead a person to raise a question about a whole nation based on a stupid tv show based on kachra script…

Its like saying all americans are promiscuous and roam around naked or eat cockroaches… by seeing american tv shows…

Sometimes people go too far in their contempt for a country and its people… it makes them initiate silly discussions after reading every single negative/stupid development.

Are Pakistanis more polite than westerners?

I don’t think they are more or less polite. Agreed with Khatti and for once also Buttsb about the generalizing part.

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No they aren’t but met few men really polite and helpful.

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What’s more interesting is the habit desi people have of sensationalizing things to suit their own agendas. Contempt for a country and its people? Why would you think anyone would go so far in their judgments? As if there are only two emotions on this planet: love and hate.

Itnaaaaaaaaaaa jazbati honay ki kya zaroorat hai?

My first post clearly says I don’t think Pakistanis are any more polite than Westerners. My experience leads me to believe the same as khatti…where I don’t think Paks have earned any sort of reputation for politeness or rudeness. Same of Westerners.

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**You need to take rest…you are the one being emotional…it wasn’t directed at you…you made a perfectly valid point…so why are you getting pissed for nothing??

Why would i think? i mentioned in my post…ridiculous assertions as the one in this thread…please offer me any other logical alternative reason for this kind of non-sensical assertions…i am open to suggestions…what could have motivated this?**

What agenda…please elaborate… what agenda is being persuid by the ‘‘desi people’’… i am all ears.