Are Music Videos Going Too Far??

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Originally posted by Myth:
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pardon my intrusion but i could not tolarate the racism which u have shown in your reply...they r not refered to as "BLACKS or KALAS"...they r AFRICAN AMERICANS...if u can't say it then don't say n e thing...its just rude and sad to see people r so racist here!!!

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Your intrusion is pardoned, yet I doubt that any black artists who are jamaican, british, canadian or frnch etc will like to be called african-americans.

[This message has been edited by Fraudz (edited August 08, 2001).]

pathwari,

Are you suggesting that I am old? Do you mean to say that I my personal tolerance levels have changed since I was in school?

You may be right to a certain degree. My tastes have changed. However, when I think back, I recall that music videos were not as graphic about taboo subjects at that time. Otherwise I certainly would not have been allowed to watch them. (Yes, the tv was in the family room and programming was supervised.)

Xtreme,

Yes standards do change all the time. But isn't it in our own best interest to manage this change effectively?

What will happen when it becomes okay to go around shooting people that tick you off? Will we control the change before it comes to that? Of course we will.

The question is, where do you draw the line?

With regards to who's fault it is.....well, we can't hold the "blacks" responsible alone. Afterall, they are catering to public demand aren't they? Save for the few that are interested in music as an art form (and these folks don't normally use sex to sell cuz they aren't that interested in selling), the vast majority of bands and performers are in it to make money. If sex makes money for them, then sex they deliver.

In my view the responsibility lies on the public. If the public refuses to accept such material, by boycotting it's sale, by boycotting it's broadcast, then we might see some results.

Public opinion can make the difference. But is our public so far gone that we cannot see right from wrong?

Muzna

Public is unable to handle itself in a responsible manner at all times. I think putting the lebels of explicit lyrics on music was a good start and more needs to be done.

We talk about impact of images and words on young minds, and sights which galmourize a gangster lifestyle and lyrics that suggest the same need to be kept from kids.

And yes the artists have the blame as well. Just because there is demand for something does not mean that I should take it upin myself to go satisfy that demand. where do we then draw the line, drugs, prostitution?

Facts are facts, no matter what the underlying reasons. When I noted that the basic issue is with the black artists and the rap genre of music, statistically I was correct. When my niece or newphew are over I will be more wary of BET or when a rap video is on MTV and not really worry about the socioeconomic pressures, record company extortion, or public demand for such items.

There are tons of good artists out there who dont need the crutches of explicit lyrics or images to sell a cd.

Muzna, the fact is, the public aren't boycotting such material. Rap music sells in millions. so much so that the whites like Eminem are jumping onto the bandwagon.

And whether it's blacks who are the main perpetartors is neither here nor there. They aren't the ones who decide it's ok to be broadcast. Any complaints should be directed to the TV authorities and broadcasters - who i doubt very much are black.

yeah BET is run by teh KKK

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Originally posted by Fraudz:
** Your intrusion is pardoned, yet I doubt that any black artists who are jamaican, british, canadian or frnch etc will like to be called african-americans.

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actually they do....coz they don't want others to call them BLACK or whateveru people call them...negro or nigger whatever....but mostly they r called as african americans....doesn't matter where they r from!!!


"The devil has put a penalty on all things we enjoy in life. Either we suffer in health or we suffer in soul or we get fat."

Jamaicans want to be called african “americans” .. thats a new one.

Not even all blacks in US like to be called african americans let alone british or french blacks.

who’s next..makranis

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LOL Fraudz

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“One who slays monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. When you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes long back at you”

Fraudz… You’re well on yuo’re way to reaching 6000 posts

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“One who slays monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. When you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes long back at you”

I dont understand why you ppl are so against such kind of "nudity" in vds.
Firstly,is more "normal" clothing...seen in Europe, America, Africa and Austria and parts of Asia.
I wanna know how many of those who post here close their eyes while seeing or rahter "hearing" to such music....no doubts that its a kind of marketing strategy but i dont think it has any pornography involved.......so why worry then?!?!


I THINK, THEREFOR I AM.

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*Originally posted by aphrodite: *

u seemed to have forgotten those heavy metal punk bands which promote just as much violence

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Heavy Metal and Punk are two very different forms of music. Heavy metal has absolutely nothing to do with violence. Please don't generalize.