I’m a Malik and a couple days back, I and my cousin were having a discussion about the spread of Islam in the Subcontinent and I mentioned that Pakistanis have a strange way of somehow claiming Arab descent. I was like:
“Ye baat maan lo ke hamaray baap dada Hindu thay, koi Arab nai thay. Hmara koi taluk nai hai arbon se”
And he got angry and said that we Maliks are descended from Hazrat Ali R.A. Is he right? Personally, I think it’s just an example of the obsession of the Muslims of the subcontinent with Arab descent. And please, if you say that he is right and Maliks are indeed related to Hazrat Ali, give some evidence. And some hard evidence. Not something like Baba so-so and Baba so-so said this and that lol
TLK
August 25, 2011, 6:52pm
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Your cousin might be right.
With the arrival of Arabs and Persians in the region, the term Malik became popular amongst rulers and aristocrats. Soon after, it became the most prestigious title of them all in the region.
The Arabic term came to be adopted as a term for “tribal chieftain ” in in Afghanistan and the tribal areas of Pakistan , especially among Pashtuns , for a tribal leader or a chieftain. Maliks serve as de facto arbiters in local conflicts, interlocutors in state policy-making, tax-collectors, heads of village and town councils and delegates to provincial and national jirgas as well as to Parliament.Nawab Khalli Maliks are the sons of Rais e Azam Nawab Khan .
Malik is used by Khokhar rajputs and Khokhran, and refers to chiefs, In the Punjab , “Malik” was one of the titles used by local aristocrats, more formally known as Zamindars , under both the Mughals and the British, and to some degree still in present-day Pakistan . The title is given for large amount of ownership of land(landlords). Currently, in punjab region of Pakistan, Malik is mostly used by different rajputs clans and jatt clans to show their large land ownership. Mainly in the yester years, malik was used to signify largest land ownership in the area. It had superiority over other local titles like sirdar, khan, rai, mian and chaudhary etc.Awan Malik is a large community in Pakistan with Arab **** heritageKhukhrain or Arora communities but they are entirely different from jats). The Hindu Malik Jat are spread all over Haryana. The Muslim Malik Jat community is settled all over Pakistan and Sikh, mainly in the Punjab province. The Malik are also known as the Ghatwala. They are descended from Mann Jats and have been ferocious warriors in history, earning them the name Malik(leader). The Gathwala are now designating themselves as Maliks, which is a title.
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There are no Hindu/Sikh Awans, only Muslim Awans, this also lends to the claim that they are indeed from Arab ancestry. My paternal grandmother used to say the same thing your cousin did.
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I’m a Malik and a couple days back, I and my cousin were having a discussion about the spread of Islam in the Subcontinent and I mentioned that Pakistanis have a strange way of somehow claiming Arab descent. I was like:
“Ye baat maan lo ke hamaray baap dada Hindu thay, koi Arab nai thay. Hmara koi taluk nai hai arbon se”
And he got angry and said that we Maliks are descended from Hazrat Ali R.A. Is he right? Personally, I think it’s just an example of the obsession of the Muslims of the subcontinent with Arab descent. And please, if you say that he is right and Maliks are indeed related to Hazrat Ali, give some evidence. And some hard evidence. Not something like Baba so-so and Baba so-so said this and that lol
Why are you asking that. In Islam there is no concept of superiority based on ethnicity, tribe, cast, etc. The only criteria that makes you superior in Allah’s eyes is ‘Taqwa’.
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Why are you asking that. In Islam there is no concept of superiority based on ethnicity, tribe, cast, etc. The only criteria that makes you superior in Allah’s eyes is ‘Taqwa’.
nothing wrong with researching your ancestry if this is the intention.
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Agreed, if this is the only intention, but in our society such affiliations are normally used in Peeri-Mureedi chakar, which is against the basic teachings of Islam. Islam came to remove discriminations existing at that time like (Arab - Non Arab) and not for creating new one (Syed- Non Syed).
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@IceSoul kiya ye evidence kaafi nahi k generation next generation Hazrat Adam A.S. or Hazrat Hawa A.S. se shuro howi
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Why are you asking that. In Islam there is no concept of superiority based on ethnicity, tribe, cast, etc. The only criteria that makes you superior in Allah’s eyes is ‘Taqwa’.
Very true. Let me tell you that I do not believe in divisions on basis of cast/ethnicity and therefore, do not have “Malik” attached to my name. It was at birth, but I deliberately didn’t include it on the O-Level Entry statement and then used that entry statement to get my bay form.
STA
August 30, 2011, 7:18pm
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we all belong to prophet Adam(as), and connected to each other in one way or another.
Afshi
September 1, 2011, 7:55pm
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im also a malik awan.
but i thought we came from Iraq? no?
TLK
September 1, 2011, 7:58pm
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Afshi, Uday and Qusay sitting in a tree ..
ok I am sorry for the rudeness
Afshi
September 1, 2011, 7:59pm
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who are uday and qusay?
i dont get it.
TLK
September 1, 2011, 8:00pm
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Google is your best friend.
Afshi
September 1, 2011, 8:00pm
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oh gosh :S
STA
September 1, 2011, 8:01pm
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rotfl
I knew that ..