are hindus allowed in mosque to pray?
do any of you have a friend that goes to
mosque and temple?
Yes, non Muslims are allowed in Masaajid. I had a hindu friend who went to mosque and knew surah fateh and he had Muslim friends who went to temples.
Why?
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Interesting that there should be even question.
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The idea of allowed /not allowed as far as sacred place, is a hindu concept .Like untouchability of lower caste ,hindu prayer was limited to & still is by majority ,to brahmin who would learn sanskrit & vedas & sloks & what we call surah & para from quran but every muslim is encouraged & obligated to recite them even when following the hafiz, if present
Muslim namaz is not simple prayer which is ‘doa’ in the end i.e. all the well wishing for others & if any for yourself .Yes you can pray for non muslim & wish for there salvation too
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BUT a non muslim or a muslim who has not memorised like the pundits would have difficuly untill he masters it which happens early in age at 10 or so for most muslim families.
The mecca & Medina exclusivity is partly political being a king dom & fear of revolution etc prevent any one from going freely, specially non muslim.
OTHER WISE NO MOSQUE IN THE WORLD CAN BE OUT OF PREMISES FOR ANY HUMAN BY RELIGION.Of course cleanliness & hygiene matters which all human agree cleanliness is nearness to god as muslim & islam believe too.
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Islam is a religion for all humanity and its message is universal.. non-muslims are allowed though idol worshipping is not allowed in Islam.. some of my hindu friends have gone with me to mosque..
degas where have u been? certainly not here. badmash. ju neva call or write or send me any diamonds, what's wrong with you?
anyway, yes, hindus can go into mosques and pray....someone has to do it! jk.
Then why arent Non Muslims allowed in Mecca and Medina?
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Then why arent Non Muslims allowed in Mecca and Medina?
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Because "they (ahle kitabis & polytheists, idolators) are the VILEST of the creatures"
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I have been to jama masjid in Delhi and it was quite nice, really. Although some of the mosques in UP and Rajasthan are better.
there is a great deal of misinformation sometimes delibrately spread about islam and muslims in india
the matter of fact is that most of the converts to islam in the past have been low caste hindus who converted to islam for a better life and a dignified life
Your message reminded me of an incedent. It was 1995 in QMW (Queen Mary- Mile End, London) University when we gathered to break the fast. Couple of boys brought their sikh friend who was initially opposed by some young people but 95% people welcomed him to share the food while we were breaking the fast.
But the argument was not the entry in the mosque but the argument was that should he be eating with Muslim while they are breaking the fast.
Anyone is allowed in the Mosque regardless of race in religion as far he pays the due repect to Mosque.
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Then why arent Non Muslims allowed in Mecca and Medina?
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Why would a kafir want to go to Macca and Madina? It is not a tourist attraction, we don't go there to chill out...
They are sacred places, Muslims go there to worship God...
everybody is welcome in a masjid.
my hindu classmate wanted to go to masjid with me which is at walking distance from our college. actually he just wanted a long walk with me otherwise he dont even have intrest in his own religion.
after september 11, many non muslims have started coming to masjids.
the guy has a question which can't be answered using personal anecdotes. Just because you live in a multiethnic society with relaxed rules for inter-religious interaction doesn't mean the so called 'official' stance of a religion has changed.
Let's answer the question.. "why aren't non-muslims allowed in Mecca?? "
The question isn't about Mecca as far as I see it. It's about non-muslims being allowed into a mosque.
There was a follow up question about why aren't non-muslims allowed into Mecca and Medina but that's a different issue isn't it?
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Let's answer the question.. "why aren't non-muslims allowed in Mecca?? "**
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purpose of going to makkha and madiana is to pray to Allah and since non muslims don't pray to Allah they don't need to go.
Life styles of non muslims is different too, they should not be in the holy cities because they are not used to islamic customs and way of life. securiety is also a reason.
I believe Mecca was chosen as irrefutable evidence to prove the point being made. It's a well known fact that non-muslims aren't allowed entry.
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the purpose of ALL mosques is primarily to pray to Allah.. so are you saying that it's indeed correct that non-muslims shouldn't be allowed inside mosques??
Life styles of non muslims is different too, they should not be in the holy cities because they are not used to islamic customs and way of life. securiety is also a reason.
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I don't know what you mean by lifestyle argument. Don't muslims(say of Afhanistan or Arab) have different lifestyle than people of New York? by that argument they should not be allowed to NY either. and what is this security issue? how does presence of few non-muslims threatens the security of that city? if by security you mean security of the visiting non-muslims, who threatens their security? if non-muslims are not secure in the most of the holiest places of yours, then that is very sad.
I was not aware non-Muslims were not allowed into the cities of Mecca and Medina (Didn't they have a US base of some sort in Mecca?). I was under the impression rather it was within the vicinity of the Haramain which was closed off to them. But then historically, the Haramain has always been a sancuatury of peace and safeguard for all who seek it, including animals, which was respected even during the pre-Islamic era. During the (non-violent) conquest of Mecca by the Prophet, non-muslims were living in Mecca and continued to live in peace with obviously the Kaba being "central" to their rituals too. Perhaps this is an injuction for Saudi convenience more than anything else. They also have restrictions on the number of people going to Hajj and Umrah from certain countries, every year too.
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Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
**the guy has a question which can't be answered using personal anecdotes. Just because you live in a multiethnic society with relaxed rules for inter-religious interaction doesn't mean the so called 'official' stance of a religion has changed.
Let's answer the question.. "why aren't non-muslims allowed in Mecca?? "**
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I 've already answered it and that is the TRUTH!
"They are the VILEST of the creatures" (HQ)
Pakistaniabroad said:
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I believe Mecca was chosen as irrefutable evidence to prove the point being made. It's a well known fact that non-muslims aren't allowed entry.
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Well let's see; non muslims are allowed into mosques.
non-muslims aren't allowed into Mecca and Medina.
I don't really see how any point is being made here. Are we talking about mosques or Mecca and Medina?