Re: are feminazi's hurting the cause of women rights/equality
To try answering ur question exactly as it is put forth, feminazis would only come across as bothersome to those who do not realize that there can be people with extreme viewpoints in every group, and that they shouldn't colour your judgement about that entire group.
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I've seen and experienced this phenomenon of feminazis. What I get out of the whole thing is...RELAX ladies. When you go into a career that mainly consists of men, have patience, foreboding and dedication. THATS what will get you so much further than anything else. WHen you start with all the bra-burning type of crap, STEE-Rike! YER OUT!! But prove yourself and your abilities and you will go so very much further than a male of the SAME ability. Yup, you're a gal ... but IF you can adhere to what I've just said, you are SUCH a corporate asset. As far as all the bra burning rah rah female sheet, well they are just very misguided and are putting efforts into something that causes nothing but more mis-judgements against women. Be QUIET, DO YOUR WORK and do it WELL. It will not go un-noticed. And something that is SO much a plus is that you DONT have to give up being a woman to be successful. ENJOY being a woman cause thats what you ARE...dont fight it, work with it.
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Your asking me as if I would know!
It's an American definition, I dont understand it. I do know that Nazi's are German though. Im dead clever me.
Re: are feminazi's hurting the cause of women rights/equality
A feminazi is a female who does not take responsibility for her own circumstances, instead blames the opposite gender for her situation. Additionally she believes because she is female she is superior to the other gender. Of course this smacks of racism and facism. Its no different than saying whites are better then blacks then it is to say women are better than men.
Feminazis have one aim. To blame men for all their problems. If you get dumped men are ****s. If you don't get a job men are *s. If you get knocked up men are ****s. It is blame displacement becaue they do not wish to take responsibility for anything they do.
Gupshup is a perfect example of that.
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danial i agree with your title:)
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i agree with what you said..except the last sentence:D:grumpy:
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Thank you Mama and grumpy, and noor.
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Are you really from Bombay? No wonder you sound so wise.
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Yea Nikki, like the exception that prooves the rule or somthing. :p
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Feminazis are insignificant because in the end they'll get married just like all the other women. All talk, no substance.
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I totally agree apart from the bold part above. How do you expect women to be quiet?
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I meant to be quiet about the whole "I am woman" thing. No one wants to hear that. Stick to your work, stick to the point - no need to drag gender issues into places where gender issues dont belong.
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Danial unkel....
This is jnot fair..
I never *****ed against ya.
You'll be under-attack from now on.
Re: are feminazi's hurting the cause of women rights/equality
Apparently, people define feminazis in different ways. So it depends on your definition. For some, any feminist who is simply vocal and demanding that change starts happening soon is a feminazi. I mean, God forbid someone demand that we curb the rate of honor killings over the next few months to years, right?
For some, a feminazi is one who is simply a feminist. i.e. all women who demand human rights for females are feminazis.
For some, a feminazi is defined by her personal life rather than her views. Like, a lady that doesn't want to settle for you as the man in her life becomes the feminazi.
I'm sure there are lots of other definitions, and some do come to my mind, but I might as well develop a humanities thesis on the subject and actually get a grade for all that I write here.
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I think we can all agree that the term "feminazi" would be applied to women who take it too far. The tragedy of Honor killings and fighting against this practice could not be construed as "feminazi" unless you're an ignoramus. It becomes problematic when women fight when there really isnt a fight to be fought. Ie., in the western business world....some things I've seen:
A large "group" of workers. One promotion available. Loud-mouth woman spends much time spouting off about how few women are in upper positions...and does NOT spend time on doing good work. So when a hard-working MALE gets the promotion, the loud-mouth woman gets even louder. So they promote her too...she can't live up to expectations and ends up on the fast track to getting fired.
THeres a western view of this phenomenon and I guess an eastern view. The problems and the way they are addressed make all the difference. I dont have any experience in the "eastern" problems but have seen much of the western. And I hold true to the belief that you should shut your mouth about your gender and do your work WELL. It doesnt even have to be AS GOOD as the work of your male peers...if it even comes close, YOU will get the promotion. UNLESS youre the loudmouth that I described.
Re: are feminazi's hurting the cause of women rights/equality
A large "group" of workers. One promotion available. Loud-mouth woman spends much time spouting off about how few women are in upper positions...and does NOT spend time on doing good work. So when a hard-working MALE gets the promotion, the loud-mouth woman gets even louder. So they promote her too...she can't live up to expectations and ends up on the fast track to getting fired.
THeres a western view of this phenomenon and I guess an eastern view. The problems and the way they are addressed make all the difference. I dont have any experience in the "eastern" problems but have seen much of the western. And I hold true to the belief that you should shut your mouth about your gender and do your work WELL. It doesnt even have to be AS GOOD as the work of your male peers...if it even comes close, YOU will get the promotion. UNLESS youre the loudmouth that I described.
women who take it too far.
But who determines what "too far" means?
And I'm sure there are LOADS of hardworking females out there who do a great deal of work and they do not get promotions because they work in a male-dominated field. Stuff like that does happen, believe it or not. There are professions where its not like that, but its that way, because at some point, some loud mouth woman did make a fuss, and therefore things were changed.
Loud-mouth people have a tendency to bring out change - its not restricted to feminist situations.
Like for example, Company X ( I wont name it) (a company that makes eye contacts products) has recently been in the news for one of its products that has been causing eye infections and irritations and blindness. Well, X knew about the problem for a while, but didn't do anything about it. I just found out yesterday, and thankfully so due to the loud-mouth news, and the loud-mouth consumers who were found to have this problem and had been demanding compensation from X from lawsuits for years. I also thank the loud-mouth lawyers involved in the lawsuits.
I do not thank the quiet-mouth company X that is perpetuating human illnesses for the sake of making a profit.
Depending on how you look at it, sometimes being a loud-mouth is necessary.
Hail to the loud-mouths.
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Yes, you're right PCG. Its to those who can figure out what fights are worth fighting that we owe our thanks and those who choose their fights foolishly that set us back, yeah?
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well said
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Mamaof3, here is where you and I think differently. You think everyone should fight the fights you think are worth fighting. I would recommend to everyone that : Fight for whatever cause interests you.
So to some that might mean equal pay for working men and women. Why in the world would you assume that this cause is useless for everyone?
Oh right, you have a husband that is supporting you financially, so you don't need the income. However, be not so selfish. Lots of women do rely on the income for themselves, for their family members, etc, and for some women that extra 100 dollars a week does make a difference.
Work with some poor people or something. Open up your mind.
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PCG I dont want you to misunderstand me. I was on my own for some years and assumed that it would remain so.
Yes I am so very blessed to have a husband who supports me so that I can be home with my babies. My heart truly bleeds for the many who do not have this opportunity available to them.
WHen I say to fight the "good fight", I am talking about corporate america and probably europe too. When a working wonan spends her time spouting off about women in positions of power and women getting promotions, typically its the woman who doesnt really DESERVE the position who is spouting off. And that gives a really bad name to women in general. The woman who works hard, keeps her mouth shut about gender issues and does her work well...my goodness the corporate ceiling knows no bounds. And i'm not kidding here. I think thats more of what this thread was about...not really about the poor women with no education, skills etc who must reky on the husband. THose women have an entirely different life to face, a life so much more different and difficult than what this thread was intended to discuss I think....