I’m completely baffled and confused. A handfull of jews in the world are just far too many for us one billion muslims worldover.
Why are we letting them kill our innocent muslim women and childeren? Are we now to be considered ‘NAMARAD’(impotent)? Why are’nt my muslim brothers coming forward to fight these jews?
I just can’t understand how so few jews can kick us one billion muslims on the bum and we are just sitting there accepting it all, letting them carry on with what ever they want to do.
May be their claim of being the God’s chosen people is true after all and I suppose God must be on their side as well.
I’m now begining to feel ashamed of being a muslim.
May be their claim of being the God's chosen people is true after all and I suppose God must be on their side as well.>>>
Tauba Tauba
You may well be right in your assumptions. I don't think that Allah gives any preferantial treatment to the muslims as muslims would like to believe and claim.
But making only a couple of million jews worldwide, victorious over more than a billion muslims worldwide, it's quite possible that the Jews are HIS chosen people, and have been blessed with something special and extraordinary.
My heart crys out, when I see the suffering of the poor Palestinan childern in the news everyday. I often wonder, how could a little jewish country get away with it, whilst being surrounded by muslims countries, who are all filthy rich with the oil money.
The only answer I can find for my question is that this world is full of immoral people and muslims are no exeption.
Na Na They are not NAMARD, they killed two Israeli soldiers. After killing them, everybody start kicking the dead bodies and later the bodies were burn. What other kind of MARDANGI do you need.
Namard or castrated are Jewish Bas...ds since they are firing at rock-throwing 13 year olds.
What is the comparison between one of the most sophisticated and well-equipped armies and unorganized, nearly unarmed rock-throwing teenage boys??
And why is venting your anger on your enemy is such a big crime that it warrants distasteful sarcasm from our esteemed friend here? Imagine your own self in the picture with your children and family being shot at and weigh your options of being humane to "spies" penetrating to inflict more damage on your people. You decide.
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tsk tsk.....so sad, being a Muslim, you show such lack of faith. Do you know how Allah hates it when His people show lack of trust and faith in Him?? Ever heard of people's faith being tested??
First of all, the Jews call THEMSELVES the chosen people, that is THEIR own claim, not the Muslims'. We dont believe that.
And, even if they were the chosen people, why have they had no peace? Why were they wandering the desert for decades thousands of years ago even after fleeing the Pharaoh's oppression? Why did the holocaust happen?? Why did their religion not grow?
We're talking about two completely different things here. What is happening in Palestine, cant be expected to be settled within a fortnight. I mean, they have been fighting, are still fighting and will continue to do so. All we can do is hope and pray for their victory.
And all Muslims are trying to help them in any way they can, im talking about the people i know, i'm aware of several MSA's and other Muslim organizations trying to do fundraisings etc. A sea does begin with a single drop of water doesnt it?
As for other Muslim countries helping the Palestinians, all i can say is that i hope they're trying to figure something out...
By the way, by Namard, im sure you mean the MEN, not ALL the Muslims.......there's just so many ways you could've worded this question without being insulting to fellow Muslims....i hope that wasnt intentional.
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If your faith in Islam is dependent on how muslims around the world carry themselves, then you have a lot of growing up to do. If u even have to get to the point of expressing shame for being a muslim, then its u who needs a lesson in mardaangi, since youre willing to strip down ur faith based on what people around u are doing. Are u namaz and roza meant as a show-off? or do u do them for the sake of Allah SWT? If they are for the sake of Allah SWT, then do your bit. You wont be asked why other muslims around you didnt step up to their responsibilities. You will only be answerable for yourself. If you feel ashamed, then the problem lies with you my friend. How does ur attitude differentiate you from the western media who routinely stereotype muslims and Islam based on the mistakes of a handful muslims? If you believe the muslims of the world arent living up to their obligations, does that make it wrong to be a muslim? Does that mean the flaw lies with Islam? Think before u speak.
The moment that US stops the support to Israel, the very next moment, its gonna take only one ghuri missle and Israel is history.
Their 2 are equal to our 100+???????? WHat kind of human rights promoting is that? Where does it say that 2 human lives(jews) are equal to 100 human lives(Muslims)?
USA talks about stoping the spread of nuclear weapons, but at the same time gives nuclear weapons to Israel! Now you tell where is the justice and honesty in that?
Quite a provocative thread, I must say, and will only draw redicule as the muslims themselves have deviated from the path of Islam. Muslims should blame no one for this sorry state but themselves, their own weakness, lack of faith and brotherhood.
Still, this sorry state is no excuse to loose your “imaan”. Personally, I imagine, things will get much worse for muslims, before they get any better. Keep your faith, do your bit and Insha Allah, the ultimate victory will be ours.
Don’t look for justice and honesty from America or anyother country. Muslims of the world have to realize that they have to be strong from within. And don’t wait for US to stop supporting Israel. That ain’t gonna happen anytime soon. I once read an ayat or a hadith saying (nearest interpretation) that christians and jews are natural friends of eachother.
So look for strength from within Islam (Quran and Sunnah), work for better unity amongst Muslims and Islamic Ummah. That is our only salvation.
I applaud your logic and humanity....you constantly put down and abuse Hinduism and Hindus....come up with absolutely stupid, hateful and racists statements...to top it all you point out finger at others.
You are a good example of racist and religious bigot. How dare you put down hinduism and expects hindus not to give you back in the same coin. There is so much turmoil in the world because of people like yourself. Please try to analyse youself and your insecurities....only insecure people feel compelled to abuse others.
Rani, so much turmoil is because of disbelivevers like your self who tell the truth upside down in nasty, inhumane media campaigns!!!
You tell lies about Islam and Muslims, that is why we fight with you in the name of Allah.
Since the Talebans formed a government in Afghanistan....there's more to Muslims than that which meets the eye....so do not despair.
The clashes between the Israelis and the Palestinians have united the Muslims once again, the Iranian foreign minister is currently in Iraq.
The Yemeni President has openly stated that he wished his country had borders with Israel so he could pass on weapons to the Palestinians.
Pakistan reportedly has a list of 250,000 personnel signing up to fight against the Jews.
War hardened and extremely skilful Afghans (who defeated the worlds most powerful army – Russia, and also traveled to Bosnia to fight the Serbs), are also queuing up to get a chance to fight the Zionists, this is the mood which is reflected throughout the Muslim world, in fact millions have signed up in many Muslim countries in an effort to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth and hopefully achieve what Hitler never managed to do. The sense of unity amongst the Muslims (approx. 1.5 billion) has been excellent and very heart warming.
For Muslims wanting to attain Shahadah, this is an ideal opportunity to enter Paradise. If you are seriously considering fighting the Jewish infidels, you are first advised to take a free of charge 4 week Jihad training course in Afghanistan, following that there will be regular transportation arrangements made primarily by air and land, travelling through Iran, Iraq, Syria and finally to Palestine.
Why do you care what others believe in, it is none of your business. Every time you use word disbeliever you show your insecurity and your enemy based philospy. Only insecure people like you bash others and post whole thread attackin others and preaching them like a mullah....
P.S. Go ahead and tell us how bad disbelievers are and how much Quran hates them.....your insecurity about your religion is very obivious.
Its my duty to tell you the TRUTH about Islam and call you to Islam. You make it my bussiness when you believe in illogical/irrational things.
Quran does not teaches us to hate. That is your mentality that is made to think like, if quran promotes hate. You have been brainwashed by biased Jewish media, that is why you keep judging Islam and Quran.
When someone tells the truth it is NOT bashing it is called “telling the truth” now you know. You may name it bashing because you don’t have anything else to say to make it fit as an excuse word, and you must find a way to defend your disbelieves. You are a disbeliever. Islam is the right path, and ONLY Islam is THE TRUTH
PS: You disbelievers tell truth upside down, you make the false and tyranny look innocent and you make innocent look bad. You are the ultimate falsehood a punishment on this world. Which can only be cleaned by Islam or else you will pay the ultimate price.