I say he's still in his compound come Monday.
Loser changes signature to winners choice.
Him hiding is a draw.
This is just another stalling tactic from Israel. If it's not Arafat it will be someone else who is not acceptable by the Israelis.
Israel knows damn well that Arafats expulsion will bring mayhem in the region. But as usual, the Israelis are a bit slow in reading simple warnings from the rest of the world and have their own agenda.
The Arab nations should of got together and hammered the illegal occupying Israel years ago. We wouldn't be in this mess now.
As far as I'm concerned, the quicker Israel gets sent to 'Coventry', the better for the world.
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This is just another stalling tactic from Israel. If it's not Arafat it will be someone else who is not acceptable by the Israelis.
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Well since Arafat has been the only leader of the Pals you really can't back up that statement.
Was that expulsion or murder?
First the defence minister, and now the vice prime minister of israel says that murdering Arafat is an option on the agenda as well. Combine that with a war criminal for a prime minister, and it all makes sense.
Arafat is an elected president, and until Palestine gains independence, I dont see much sense in the palestinians holding elections to bring in someone who will bring about independence for them. The Palestinians are in an independence and liberation struggle.
The concept of democracy cannot be planted in every situation imaginable. When you dont have independence, you cannot have democracy. The logical steps to peace in the mideast so far seem to have escaped both the US and Israel, where they believe they can have their cake and eat it too. They want to keep their settlements, they want to reduce Palestine to a scattered wasteland, and they still want to be on a moral high ground.
Its just an explosive situation. If peace is not possible with Arafat at the helm of Palestinian issues, then peace is not possible x a million with Sharon at the other end. The guy is a war criminal. Lets kill him first, shall we?
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Well since Arafat has been the only leader of the Pals you really can't back up that statement.
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I think he can. Sharon has been consistently killing Palestinians's for the past 50 years and more, yet he has been promoted from one rank to another in the IDF, and has been at the forefront of Israeli politics for the last 25 years and more.
For those of you who haven’t heard god speak
Who’d have thought that god was a fat butcher from tel aviv?
Israel ‘considers killing Arafat’
"In an interview with Israel Radio, Deputy Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said it was now only a practical question of how to get rid of Mr Arafat.
“His expulsion is an option, his liquidation is another option. It is also possible to confine him to prison-like conditions,” Mr Olmert said."
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"Legally recognized entity"
The National Football League is a legally recognized entity, but their leaders do not have "diplomatic immunity". Diplomatic immunity means that duely appointed diplomats cannot be prosecuted for crimes while traveling to foreign lands for official business. It does not mean that Leadership from every country, particularly those who have commited crimes, or who are waging a proxy war, are immune from arrestand prosecution if they have played a role in murder in another country.
I understand who you are discussing. Be that as it may, Israel would not have arrested him if they thought he was a truely viable alternative to Arafat. Anything but Arafat. The future leader of Palestine should have clean hands.
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A. Who are you two judge who has clean hands. Sharons hands are drenched in as much blood as Pol Pot, Stalin, maybe even hitler.
B. By the statement i should have been clearer. Internationally recognized legal representative of the Palestinian people. That simple acceptance by a majority of the nations, including the UN and the US allocates diplomatic immunity to its secretariat and officials.
C. If prosecution is acceptable. I wonder why Sharon is not arrested when he was in India?
Killing Arafat an option…
**Now here’s the zinger…
Let’s say an Arab says the same thing about Bush or Sharon…What would he be labelled as?
These guys treat others as an object to be removed, while their own lives are more important than the ‘others’…
No wonder the Israelis are hungry for more suicide sandwiches…I say feed em…Feed em until they bust…**
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel’s vice premier says killing Palestinian President Yasser Arafat is an option in its threat to
“remove” him as an obstacle to peace.
“Killing (him) is definitely one of the options,” Ehud Olmert, a mainstream member of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s cabinet,
told Israel Radio.
“We are trying to eliminate all the heads of terror, and Arafat is one of the heads of terror,” Olmert said.
Palestinian chief peace negotiator Saeb Erekat said in response: “This is the thinking and action of the mafia – not a
government.”
Israel’s security cabinet decided to “remove” Arafat after two suicide bombings killed 15 Israelis on Tuesday, the latest surge
of violence in a three-year-old Palestinian uprising for statehood. But it did not say when it would move against him.
The vague wording left room for several options, including exiling, isolating or killing Arafat – a proposal which media reports
said hardline Defence Minister Shaul Mofaz raised but Sharon shot down.
The Israeli threat sparked an international outcry, with Washington – Israel’s main ally – joining in a chorus of calls not to expel
Arafat, a veteran symbol of Palestinian aspirations for independence.
The Bush gang and now the Sharon gang have taken givernment and foreign policy to a new low by threatening individuals.
I always thought the underlying justification (pre 9/11) for US to be in meddling in MEA politics was to bring some objectivity and sanity. Unfortunately 9/11 has provided a justification for Bush to completely lose objectivity and Sharon & Co are taking his example.
Bush, Sharon, Arafat must leave.
Matsui has gone not only bananas, but also apples and oranges! Sorry for the very very cafe post.
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom Monday dismissed comments by a cabinet minister that Israel could kill Palestinian President Yasser Arafat, but the remarks served to increase international pressure for caution.
“There will be no immediate action. It’s not official policy of the Israeli government…We don’t speak about killing (him). We didn’t speak about it before, and we don’t speak about it today.”
http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=3445688
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In an interview with Israel Radio, Deputy Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said it was now only a practical question of how to get rid of Mr Arafat. "His expulsion is an option, his liquidation is another option. It is also possible to confine him to prison-like conditions," Mr Olmert said.
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If this is the sort of thing that Israeli government ministers can say, then Israel has truly lived up to it's terrorist nature.
It's already been stated that killing Arafat is not the official policy of the Israeli government. Not at this time at least.
Depends who you talk to in the Israeli government. But it was a senior Israeli government minister that talked about killing Arafat after all, and now they have just backtracked a little becuase the whole world condemned them.
Poor old Israel, it has just committed an ubelieveable own goal, by restoring Arafat’s international standing. 
Yes, and that does so much to further the cause of the poor old Palestinian people. :rotato:
Well with Arafat being supported now by so many I guess the real winners are the Palestinians. He's done so much for them.
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Well with Arafat being supported now by so many I guess the real winners are the Palestinians. He's done so much for them.
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Indeed. He is a Nobel Peace Prize winner, while the Israeli's are led by a war crminal who dare not go to certain capitals of the world lest he be arrested.
Remember, time is on the side on the side of the Palestinian's. :)
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Remember, time is on the side on the side of the Palestinian's. :)
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Time doesn't take sides silly.
When you take the time to stop rolling on the floor in laughter about this, consider the following:
- If one assumes that the current Israeli government is pursuing a Zionist agenda and does not want a peaceful solution to the Israeli/Palestinian problem, then you must also assume it will do things that hinder and interfere with the emergence of a moderate Palestinian leader who has the potential to persuade the Palestinian people, the Americans and the rest of the world that a peaceful solution can be implemented.
- Elevating the popularity of leaders that are obstacles to peace (i.e. Arafat and Hamas) works in favor of the agenda of the right wing Israelis precisely because it lends credence to their policies of occupation, expansion, exile, cleansing, etc.
- The more accepted and popular Arafat and Hamas are amongst the Palestinian people, the more violence Israel can unleash upon them without drawing too much world-wide condemnation.
So while you are rolling on the floor mocking the Israeli policies because they have increased Arafat’s popularity among the Palestinian masses (and in your view the international community), those in high places in the Israeli government are probably lighting up cigars in comfy chairs toasting themselves with a snifter of cognac for achieving this very same outcome. The losers are again the Palestinian people and their aspirations for a homeland.
The Israelis are simply much better at playing the game than their adversaries. Now, carry on with your laughter.