Arabs condemns Pakistan's vote on Yemen

[Ali_Syed]

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[Anwer_Pasha]

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@Ajju

If General Sharif had agreed to Saudi demands in the first meeting, none of other trips and meeting would have been required. Since he was non-committed, all these other events came about which were all for nothing. That is my point.

Your point is right , ethically wrong but might is right
we have become slaves

[Anwer_Pasha]

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voice from Pakistan
**’اماراتی وزیر کا بیان پاکستانیوں کی عزتِ نفس کی ہتک ہے‘
**پاکستان کے وزیرِ داخلہ چوہدری نثار علی خان کا کہنا ہے کہ یہ ایک ستم ظریفی ہی نہیں بلکہ لمحۂ فکریہ ہے کہ متحدہ عرب امارات کا ایک وزیر پاکستان کو دھمکیاں دے رہا ہے۔](’اماراتی وزیر کا بیان پاکستانیوں کی عزتِ نفس کی ہتک ہے‘ - BBC News اردو)

[Iconoclast]

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@Sady

Those worried about the economic consequence and ‘wrath’ of those dragging us into wars against Muslim brothers need to learn to have ‘tawakkal’ on Allah as He is the one who provides even to Saudia/UAE whom Pakistanis have been brainwashed to consider GOD & prostrate to them. About time Pakistanis learn to rely on almighty Allah for all their needs including economic needs. If they worked half as hard as they work in Middle Eastern countries (as slaves with collars of ‘sponsorship’ around their necks for being ‘Bakistani’ expats) and contribute to their economy. With Allah’s many blessings of natural resources including Karachi and Gwadar ports, by curbing the corruption, Pakistanis can get so far ahead that they would only travel abroad for vacation, not to work in countries full of pride and arrogance and suffer subhuman treatment on jobs which pay them enough to make the ends meet.

Those advocating to ‘fear’ the ‘wrath’ of arrogant Muslim ‘brothers’ instead of Allah should be ashamed of themselves.

I think this is a good opportunity for Pakistani leadership to repent for all the past mistakes, maltreatment of and cruelty (of all forms) on the residents of Pakistan & focus on becoming self reliant and provide common Pakistanis with decent living standards including JUSTICE. Currently, getting justice is out of reach of the common man. This is a ‘make or break’ opportunity for the Pakistani leadership. Work on Gwadar, work on all the pending projects good for the economy of Pakistan, put in the back burner due to corruption, international pressure or other reasons. With some sanity, effort and above all HONESTY, sincerity and putting our trust in ONE GOD instead of charity money of SAUDIA, UAE, US, we’ll be much better off to accept to become SLAVES in other countries including UAE/Saudia.

If Pakistanis don’t respect themselves, no one is going to respect them.

I hope to see that Pakistan in my life time.

Enemies of Islam have taken all the Muslims of the world as slaves and hostages by exploiting the shepherds through psychological brainwashing tools (greed, pride - building high rise just to feel good, impress the world and west with easily accessible casinos/pubs/prostitution). Only thing I still respect about them is their women still have not given in to dajjalic desires (sell themselves / their bodies) like Pakistani, Egyptian and other Muslim women. Pakistani women need to learn to protect themselves against the psychological tools of the dajjal and not sell themselves for money. That’s like spreading fitna which is not liked by God and that’s why Pakistan has been under Allah’s wrath for so many years. If both men and women stop rejecting simple commands of God, stop being greedy, earn through knowledge, other pursuits permitted in Islam, not through ‘item numbers’ (Ayesha umer, hamza Ali, and the rest following the same trends), start focusing on learning, character building, Angels will help defeat the enemies and transfer the world’s (Muslim) leadership to Pakistanis. Right now, looking at the state of imaan of our people (someone above suggested fearing Saudis and UAE for worse economic implications instead of the almighty, how disgusting), I’m not so sure.

On Pakistani men’s role, currently Pakistan is one of the top importers of liquor. Every second man (guys as young as 18 and as old as 60) are ‘proud’ alcoholics. And they’re always looking for females who share the same habits to give them company. I’m not advocating imposing moral police like saudia, ISIS but I think it is every Muslim’s duty to know what they’re doing wrong Islamically. When something was forbidden by God that means it’s forbidden. No amount of justifications can make it permissible. It’s like story of Adam/Eve. They did not care the fruit was forbidden and still ate it hence suffered the ‘wrath’ of God. That is the wrath Pakistanis (and the Muslim ummah for that matter) is currently suffering and that wrath is what Pakistanis should fear. Not wrath of Saudis/Emaratis not throwing riyaals on us or for accepting us in slavery. So Pakistani men and women, both have to mend ways, Pakistani leadership has to ensure the justice is in the reach of common people, and leadership of political parties specifically PPP have to stop being hypocrites and take “U-turns” which they always accuse PTI of. A good step in the right direction should be appreciated.

@Med911

Let them threaten. Pakistan doesnt need friends like these. Gargash should learn some respect.

I don’t know where this tawakkul on Allah was when US threatened to bomb us into oblivion and Musharraf complied. I cannot find a single sane person other than some right wing extremists who proposed to do tawakkul on Allah and say no to US.

Even now, Pakistan is providing corridor to NATO for arms and supplies.

International decisions are not based on dogma but rather ground realities. There are few countries in the world that would stand by Pakistan in difficulty and at teh same time carry some influence internationally. China & Saudis are among those. Pakistan cannot afford to antagonise them. Its only the closet Iranian supporters who “baghal bajana” on the way this matter was handled.

Pakistan is in no win situation, at one hand, Pakistan has a long border with Iran, active participation in war will mean, this border will turn hostile. Yet Iranians have nothing to offer Pakistan other than threat of violence on border who through their proxies.

On the other hand antagonizing Gulf carries a price tag, loss of foreign exchange, cheap Oil and gas contracts.

&Ali_Syed NS has handled it extremely poorly. He should have keep everything behind closed doors, there was no need for a parliamentary session on this issue. He could have promised Saudis something. There is no indication atleast now or in near future that ground troops are going to enter, Yemen, Pakistani troops will never would have required to be fighting, if at all such a situation had arose, that’s when they could say that’s a red line for us.

[SID_NY]

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Nice analysis..

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PAKISTAN’S FAILURE TO HONE ALL ELEMENTS OF ITS NATIONAL POWER HAS ALLOWED COUNTRIES LIKE THE U.A.E. TO THREATEN IT.

[Captain1]

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@Zafra

Somewhere in the original thread where I said defending Saudi Arabia is okay and going to be our only option.

I remember you saying Pakistan ‘should’ send troops to defend Saudis, not ‘will send troops’.

[Anwer_Pasha]

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Can we shift our GHQ & ISI headquarters to Yemen permanently
It can help all Muslim ummah especially Pakistan

[Captain1]

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^ what about the party who sowed the concept of ummah? can we move it there as well please?

[Ali_Syed]

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@Anwer_Pasha

Can we shift our GHQ & ISI headquarters to Yemen permanently
It can help all Muslim ummah especially Pakistan

Showing the true colours? I knew those advocating sending the army to Yemen were doing due to their spite for them.

[Nikema]

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@Captain1

^ what about the party who sowed the concept of ummah? can we move it there as well please?

There was a lot of political gains and global recognition to be made by coming up with concept of Ummah and not to forget a lot of $$…dont forget back then the rate/reward was not 10%, it was the whole amount.

[Ali_Syed]

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So Bismillah, the government should board who ever wants to go ‘save’ house of Saud on the next flight bound to yemen.

Pro-Saudi clerics say they will go protect Harmain Sharifain if army won’t - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

However, when the participants of the ASWJ rally started chanting slogans against the parliamentarians, he stopped them. He said he will soon be rejoining the parliament so they should not criticise the lawmakers.

[ninja_hattori]

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pakistan can’t watch saudis suffer.pakistan should support saudi arabia covertly.
Time for pakistan to do lot of bargain with KSA.

[SID_NY]

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@ninja_hattori

pakistan can’t watch saudis suffer.pakistan should support saudi arabia covertly.
Time for pakistan to do lot of bargain with KSA.

Err who exactly is suffering here? Did you really say Saudis?

And Pakistan should bargain with KSA the way on the cost of what exactly?

[kakaballi]

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@Ali_Syed

So Bismillah, the government should board who ever wants to go ‘save’ house of Saud on the next flight bound to yemen.

Pro-Saudi clerics say they will go protect Harmain Sharifain if army won’t - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
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Yes, please. Give all jihad lovers a lot of weapons, stuff them in a military aircraft and drop them off in ISIS territory.

[ninja_hattori]

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@SID_NY

Err who exactly is suffering here? Did you really say Saudis?

And Pakistan should bargain with KSA the way on the cost of what exactly?

yes saudis..they are not suffering right now but in long term experienced irani army with the help of houthis will defeat them.
pakistan always look up to saudi arabia when in economic distress and you are asking what bargain?

[kakaballi]

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@ninja_hattori

yes saudis..they are not suffering right now but in long term experienced irani army with the help of houthis will defeat them.
pakistan always look up to saudi arabia when in economic distress and you are asking what bargain?

Sauds’ biggest Ally, USA would never let that happen.

You realize that Saudia is the biggest customer of military equipment… they wouldn’t let such a nice customer down.

[Ali_Syed]

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And this is the reason for the war.

A young prince may cost Syria and Yemen dear - Voices - The Independent

we need to keep in mind that houthis are zaidis, like Ali abdullah Saleh who was supported by Saudis in the past…what has changed now?

Saudis are exaggerating Iranian support to houthis, they are trying to convert a local issue into sectarian and this is where the whole problem lies. All problems engulfing the Middle East have become sectarian in nature, and considering Pakistans problems at home it’s not recommended to be a party.

Part of the explanation may lie with the domestic politics of Saudi Arabia. Madawi al-Rasheed, a Saudi visiting professor at LSE’s Middle East Centre, says in the online magazine al-Monitorthat Saudi King Salman’s defence minister and head of the royal court, his son Mohammed bin Salman, aged about 30, wants to establish Saudi Arabia as absolutely dominant in the Arabian Peninsula. **She adds caustically that he needs to earn a military title, “perhaps ‘Destroyer of Shiite Rejectionists and their Persian Backers in Yemen’, to remain relevant among more experienced and aspiring siblings and disgruntled royal cousins”. **A successful military operation in Yemen would give him the credentials he needs.

[bao_bihari]

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@Ma_Mooli

Are you based in arab country? what are their sentiments.

Btw haramain existed way before aale saud and they will continue to exist after them. If yemenis do take control; it would be no concern to me. Infact it would be preferable; they are muslims afterall. Its not the haramain the aale saud want protecting.. but thier own thrones that they have built on sands dunes. Haramains are being dangled purely as an emotional ploy as usual; and dopeheads all over are falling for it again. Our reply should be the same that was given to abraha in battle of the elephants…give me back what is mine; God will take care of what is his.

Yes i am in UAE.

i have a feeling that the sentiments are not that of brother rejecting a brothers request(although people try to make it appear that way) but instead due to actions of our political and other elite , the actual feeling is that of a slave rejecting one order.

Although i support that harmain tawaliyat should remain with arabs as they have done a wonderful job from certain aspects but this attitude of arabs/expectation of arabs that we should bow down to them (see arrogance in gargash statement) is some thing that need to be addressed.

Indeed there is not comparision between iran and arabs, iran have been our back stabber since long , all we need is to regain respect and then support arabs when they need it. We need people with *ghairat.

@teggy

AsSalaamo Alaikum bro!

I’m sorry to hear that. But it is like you said, may be it will benefit more than harm, inshaAllah. Hang in there, and keep making duaa to Allah for guidance of all.

Waalikum assalam brother.

Waisay problem with todays arab/Iran is hidden nationalism/Asbiyat in guise of islam. I think that in this war bother parties are playing thier roles to create a sectarian issue at a much larger scale.

[jasos]

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@ninja_hattori

pakistan can’t watch saudis suffer.pakistan should support saudi arabia covertly.
Time for pakistan to do lot of bargain with KSA.

bilkul theek kaha :cobra: ager meira koi dost mushkil mein ho aor mein us key madad nah kar sakon to uss ko haq hey mujhay kahay bakri hoye
lekin idhar rona yeh hey keh ek dosra mulk jo Pakistan k khilaf he bolta hey aor kuch nahin karta us k liye halkan ho ja rahey hain loog

[jasos]

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@kakaballi

Sauds’ biggest Ally, USA would never let that happen.

You realize that Saudia is the biggest customer of military equipment… they wouldn’t let such a nice customer down.

aor woh dosra mulk to dushman hey na usa ka :cobra:
jis key tarefin karta media nahin thakta