Or you can insult others when you want but play the victim when the attack is against your religion ![]()
I did read the first post, you should read your own post again. When life of Salman Rushdie, Tasleema was made difficult it was not because "Muslims" were pro-freedom-of-speech. Danish cartoonist again used the same "freedom of speech" and insulted religion, no action against them was taken.... but as soon as some Muslims used the same "freedom of speech" to do the same to some other religion followers they are prosecuted.... now tell me who is the hypocrite?
If they had made fun of Judiasm and they had been prosecute ... your point would have been valid. Unforunately they have made fun of an event in which millions of people were killed because of their faith !!!! Equating the two events in itself is hypocritical.
I personally felt the danish cartoons were not in good taste and i did find them offensive . But to make fun of an event in whcih millions were killed is sic and shows the mentality of people. Even though they might "believe" that every human life is sacred and killing one innocent person is like killing the whole humanity ..... but in practice they have no qualms about making fun of these innocent lives lost !!!!! Time to get your bearing right !!!!
Muslims do not have the moral right to use "freedom of speech" as an excuse if they cannot accept "freedom of speech" when it is against their religion/faith. Muslims using that excuse is where the hypocrisy comes in.
Whats so difficult to comprehend ?
Again, this line of reasoning may make you feel good, (as beating straw men is always fun), but the fact is by responding in this way the people who are making these cartoons obviously have reconciled themselves with the cartoons, videos, etc. against Islam.
You would refrain from using the word "Muslim" as if it's an individual, please...if they do indeed continue to call for the ban of this or that, then perhaps THEY can be accused of hypocrisy.
If they had made fun of Judiasm and they had been prosecute ... your point would have been valid. Unforunately they have made fun of an event in which millions of people were killed because of their faith !!!! Equating the two events in itself is hypocritical.
Hypocritical? How?
In any case, using that very event as part of the basis for the subjegation of another people should perhaps be more concerning than some cartoon...
Hypocritical? How?
In any case, using that very event as part of the basis for the subjegation of another people should perhaps be more concerning than some cartoon...
What has this event in the Netherlands got to do with "subjugation of another people" ?????? ......
Stay with the plot ..... The cartons on holocast (an event where millions died) were published and are against the law (remember there is a law for holocast denial) ....... so where does the prejudice against muslims come here.
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What the hell is INDIAN Punjabi in USA trying to say here. What you are doing here is to insult the Islam u have nothing else to say but to target the Muslims thats all i can read in your comments. The only time or most of the time you comment is when you have something to say against Pakistan, Pakistanis, Muslims or Islam.
The mere fact that you are tolerated by the moderator of Pakistani forum means that we are tolerant. Why not take a pause and talk about what is happening in India why the Jinnah book was banned. INDIA is bragging about being the biggest demoCRAZY in the worl not Pakistan so why not change your tune towards INDIA Mr. INDIAN Punjabi in USA.
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This wilders has Indo(nesian) he did color his hair just to hide his ethnic background he is a pig and i will not be surprised (i do not wish that will happen) he will be killed by some nuts who cannot control his/her anger. But even in the West they say that there are limitations to what is liberal or freedom of speech. In Holland is you insult the Queen then you get fined and punished. But when someone insults the Prophet (PBUH) and insults 1 and half billion Muslims then we should shut up? No i dont think we should we should follow the judicial procedure and try to procecute the culpret but when emotions get high we unfortunatly cannot stand for all Muslims but the problem is most Muslims are then victimized by an act of one person.
Hypocrisy at its best...
+1
This is ridiculous.
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Wilders is nothing more than an attention seeker, and he only spreads hatred.
Haven't seen a bigger loser than that pig
Wilders is nothing more than an attention seeker, and he only spreads hatred. Haven't seen a bigger loser than that pig
Aaahhmmmm!
This thread is about "Arabs settled in the West" breaking the law "on holocaust denial".
Let's stick to the topic please.
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Dil Pakistan
You are so right
He is thriving on the negativity and opportunism
He even gives pig a dirty name
lolz i never thought i would ever say that in my life hehe
Wilders has also been linked to the topic, so had to relief my heart abt him,
uski gandhi tasveer jo laggi hai ![]()
Wilders has also been linked to the topic, so had to relief my heart abt him, uski gandhi tasveer jo laggi hai :nook
Looking at pictures is seldom enough. Reading the text and understanding the subject is the key to success in life.
knee-jerk reactions in Pakistan or by Pakistanis have lead to our current state of pathetic affairs, and if we refuse to "learn to read', our future won't be so bright.
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With all respect ms/mr burqaposhx,
Only thing i wanted to do is react on somebody else's post and add my opinion to it, ok?
Pls, no need to overreact :)
Peace!
Muslims are extremely sensitive when it comes to their holy prophet PBUH, & any disrespect towards him boils their blood,
Hypocrisy at its best...
Where did freedom of expression go when they made life hell for Salman Rushdie, Tasleema Nasreen & the Danish cartoonist ??
What you are implying is that you dont give a damn about how we feel; & the world is free to act in whatever manner they feel like & if it hurts us its our problem not theirs, However by dint of the fact that we are sensitive towards certain issues we lose the right over freedom of expression.
So essentially it means that sensitivities of muslims need not to be respected under the pretext of freedom of expression. However, they dont have the same right of freedom of expression if it is believed that it is hurting the sensitivity of certain people.
That my friend is hypocrisy at its best!!!
Muslims are extremely sensitive when it comes to their holy prophet PBUH, & any disrespect towards him boils their blood,
Point taken
So essentially it means that sensitivities of muslims need not to be respected under the pretext of freedom of expression. However, they dont have the same right of freedom of expression if it is believed that it is hurting the sensitivity of certain people.
That my friend is hypocrisy at its best!!!
My friend if you are extremely sensitive about your Prophet (PBUH), there are other people who are sensitive to certain issues. Why dont muslims apply the same yardstick and try not to tread on other people's sensitive issues. You dont want anybody to insult your prophet pbuh, but you go the extra mile to hurt other peoples' sentiments. If that is not hypocracy, I dont know what is
Also there is the question of the law of the native land. It needs to be followed to be a citizen of the country. Violating the law has its own consequences.
Point taken
My friend if you are extremely sensitive about your Prophet (PBUH), there are other people who are sensitive to certain issues. Why dont muslims apply the same yardstick and try not to tread on other people's sensitive issues. You dont want anybody to insult your prophet pbuh, but you go the extra mile to hurt other peoples' sentiments. If that is not hypocracy, I dont know what is
Also there is the question of the law of the native land. It needs to be followed to be a citizen of the country. Violating the law has its own consequences.
Transgression from certain people or groups is inevitable , it is preposterous to make a judgment of a community based on the actions of a selected few, However, the response of the established social order towards such transgressions is certainly the most veracious measure to establish the aspirations of that community. In both the instances certain people have acted to hurt the feelings of a community, One cartoon questions the integrity of a claim held by 13 million people , the other humiliates the aspirations of 1.6 billion people, the difference lies in how the state chose deal with it,- that difference my friend is the bottom line
Transgression from certain people or groups is inevitable , it is preposterous to make a judgment of a community based on the actions of a selected few, ...
OK then why so many Paks on this thread are supporting Arab denial of holocaust thus making judgment of the whole Jewish community in Denmark?
Heck Jewish community there wasn't even involved in the cartoonish controversy.
Have some mercy hermit!
I am sure you are a smart enough person to understand opinions on a single thread cannot be taken as a widely held opinion across a community - However, I read all the post after your comment & I did not found this
OK then why so many Paks on this thread are supporting Arab denial of holocaust thus making judgment of the whole Jewish community in Denmark?
So I will appreciate if you can help me find it , what I gathered from the responses was just the unacceptability of the double standards
On the topic of holocaust denial, how many decades have passed since this phase of history & along those preceding decades was the idea of denying the holocaust invented by the muslims ? or from amongst the people who were blamed for this genocide ?
The fact of the matter is muslims are not a party to the holocaust even in the slightest bit hence there exists no motive for the muslims for its denial or admision beyond a historical interest ,
the recent trend of denying the holocaust from amongst the muslims (that too is not very wide spread) is a reaction to Isreals justification for tormenting injustice & brutality against the palestinian people based on the holocaust . This is an emotional response - the roots of which lies in the injustice committed towards them - rather then hatred for the jews.
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Here is the whole issue in a nutshell. The law on holocaust denial is a violation of freedom of speech. These *******s have no moral leg to stand on.
There is no concept of limited-freedom of speech. Its either freedom of speech or it is not. And the europeans have proven their double standards. The reason Posh spice is so upset is that he still suffers from the colonial mentality.