wah wah we have an abu gharaib of our own
why blame the non-muslims then ?
Arab women singers complicit in rape, says Amnesty
report
Jeevan Vasagar in Nairobi and Ewen MacAskill
Tuesday July 20, 2004
The Guardian
While African women in Darfur were being raped by the
Janjaweed militiamen, Arab women stood nearby and sang
for joy, according to an Amnesty International report
published yesterday. The songs of the Hakama, or the
“Janjaweed women” as the refugees call them,
encouraged the atrocities committed by the militiamen.
The women singers stirred up racial hatred against
black civilians during attacks on villages in Darfur
and celebrated the humiliation of their enemies, the
human rights group said.
“[They] appear to be the communicators during the
attacks. They are reportedly not actively involved in
attacks on people, but participate in acts of
looting.”
Amnesty International collected several testimonies
mentioning the presence of Hakama while women were
raped by the Janjaweed. The report said:“Hakama appear
to have directly harassed the women [who were]
assaulted, and verbally attacked them.”
During an attack on the village of Disa in June last
year, Arab women accompanied the attackers and sang
songs praising the government and scorning the black
villagers.
According to an African chief quoted in the report,
the singers said: “The blood of the blacks runs like
water, we take their goods and we chase them from our
area and our cattle will be in their land. The power
of [Sudanese president Omer Hassan] al-Bashir belongs
to the Arabs and we will kill you until the end, you
blacks, we have killed your God.”
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abu gharaib was a sunday picnic compared to these atrocities.
I hope they were at least wearing hijab.
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Who? The Arab singers? Like hijab is going to save them from the grave acts they participated in?
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*Originally posted by Seminole: *
abu gharaib was a sunday picnic compared to these atrocities.
I hope they were at least wearing hijab.
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ask the people who were subjected to the "picnic" .... both acts are equally disgusting and outrageous ...
No wonder the silence regarding the Arab massacre of Sudan’s black inhabitants if you equate genocide with the naked pyramid building and barking dogs of abu gharaib.
^ before u start flickering ur headlights... do some research and read-up what happened at the prison... it was more than pyramid building & barking dogs...
Darn, I missed those reports where ethnic cleansing is taking place in Iraq with villages destroyed and the people kicked out or murdered, their crops and cattle burnt or looted, the girls and women systematically gang raped and enslaved and limbs broken so they can't escape. Tactics at the prison were deplorable, but please stop with the comparisons to this genocide, it degrades what they are going through in Sudan.
Why don't you also list the atrocities committed by the US troops (or what ever the hell they were called special ops or civilian investigators blah blah)... at the prison and see if there are some similarities...
your statement degraded the prisoners and what they had to go through by calling the whole thing a "Sunday Picnic" ...
People involved in both places share the same values... no respect or regard for human life... that is the bottom line...
Yes, I mentioned it was a Sunday picnic in comparison - because it was! Temporary prison abuses (for which there was a justified outcry and subsequent investigations and cessation) do not equal an ongoing, years long genocide in my book. I'm sorry you consider all moral transgressions and mistreatment of others as equal. If many Muslims think like you then it is no wonder no one is issuing fatwas or helping their Sudanese brothers.
draw any conclusions that you like hopefully u can sleep tight at night thinking it was just a picnic compared to other atrocities, we were still better …
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Yes, I mentioned it was a Sunday picnic *in comparison - because it was! Temporary prison abuses (for which there was a justified outcry and subsequent investigations and cessation) do not equal an ongoing, years long genocide in my book. I'm sorry you consider all moral transgressions and mistreatment of others as equal. If many Muslims think like you then it is no wonder no one is issuing fatwas or helping their Sudanese brothers.
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Actually I define a picnic as what the Iraqi resistance are going through: killing a few American soldiers each day.
If you referring the silence as in the Arab media, then I do know that al-jazeera is reporting on this as well.
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LOL That article threatens UK if they deploy troops to help and states that the situation started when the rebel groups rose up. No mention of the genocide or systematic rape being comitted by the Arab militia.
Actually I define a picnic as what the Iraqi resistance are going through: killing a few American soldiers each day.
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Yeah, by all means don't address the Arab singing women, systematic rape and ethnic cleansing. We don't want to break any patterns.
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LOL That article threatens UK if they deploy troops to help and states that the situation started when the rebel groups rose up. No mention of the genocide or systematic rape being comitted by the Arab militia.
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From the article......
"Over a million people have been
made homeless by the fighting"
"More than a year of fighting in Sudan's western Darfur region has killed some 10,000 people and left more than a million homeless."
Yes this particular article did not mention rapes that were committed.
I think the topic of what is happening in Sudan should be focussed on instead of dragging in the events of Iraq and US actions into this thread. This is exactly how the issue of Sudan always gets ignored.
No wonder the silence regarding the Arab massacre of Sudan’s black inhabitants if you equate genocide with the naked pyramid building and barking dogs of abu gharaib.