Whole Army? Yes, the top brass was probably involved, but thats just a few select Generals, croonies of Musharraf. I dont like them, and yes, they were probably involved but they werent the main players behind it, aur kuch?
Those few "select generals" control the whole army.
Again, it is more the jihadi generals who are responsible for recklessness in Pakistan's policies.
Musharraf used to go along with them, until after 9/11.
Those few "select generals" control the whole army.
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Spock, Aalsi, and Abbas bros!
Here is the summary of what you all are saying ---
Based on the summary,
and Qadeer Khan's own "confession or suggestions", he probably knows a lot more than what he is saying.
Do you guys think it is time for the IAEA to force Pakistani generals to hand over Qadeer Khan for further investigation?
Those few "select generals" control the whole army.
Again, it is more the jihadi generals who are responsible for recklessness in Pakistan's policies. Musharraf used to go along with them, until after 9/11.
Everyones jihadi in their own domain, be it the karachi based ethnic parties or be it these top generals. Even if Musharraf stopped going along with them after 9/11, he needs to be punished for his crimes.
Spock, Aalsi, and Abbas bros!
Here is the summary of what you all are saying ---
Based on the summary,
and Qadeer Khan's own "confession or suggestions", he probably knows a lot more than what he is saying.
Do you guys think it is time for the IAEA to force Pakistani generals to hand over Qadeer Khan for further investigation?
Its time for these generals to admit their guilt first before the country, like AQ Khan did.
Re: AQ Khan: Centrifuges sold to N Korea at Mushy's consent
We all know that Musharraf was involved when he sold Nuclear Secrets to North Korea.
It was in the vital interests of Pakistan to get North Korean Missile Technology to enhance our missile forces.
And we did that in the late 1990's when relations between USA and Pakistan were in the tank. So North Korean nuclear weapons only threatened Japan, South Korea and USA which are not in the vital interests of Pakistan.
When it comes to Iran and Libya, then Musharraf was not involved as Pakistan has absolutely no interests in seeing both these countries attain nuclear weapons and they have nothing militarily to offer to Pakistan.
So summary is:
North Korea - Musharraf was involved
Libya - NO
Iran - NO
End of Story
Re: AQ Khan: Centrifuges sold to N Korea at Mushy's consent
^Kafi lambi chori hai.
In early 90's when the technology is said to have been transferred to korea, Mush was no body.
Re: AQ Khan: Centrifuges sold to N Korea at Mushy’s consent
seems like the stage is set to celebrate next election results with made AS north korea firecrackers. 
Good article on the evidence against AQ Khan.
Nawaz was warned about AQ Khan by DG ISI Javed Nasir and US state dept long time ago, but he did nothing.
Some evidence of proliferation may be made public -DAWN - Top Stories; July 07, 2008
Some evidence of proliferation may be made public
ISLAMABAD, July 6: The government is seriously considering making public some of the evidence collected during the last three years about the proliferation network and Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan’s alleged role in order to counter the recent media campaign of the detained nuclear scientist to establish his innocence.
Perhaps Dr Khan is up for a shock as he may not know that almost all the ‘debriefing’ or ‘interrogation’ sessions the Pakistani investigators had held, and during which almost every detail of the international proliferation operation had come to light, were video-taped. And these 60 hours of recordings contain as explosive a material about the proliferation network as a nuclear bomb could be. And a senior government official claims that on several occasions during the debriefing Dr Khan confessed to his involvement, at times describing them as honest mistakes, slips or oversights.
Dr Khan, however, insists that he is innocent, and in a series of recent interviews has denied any wrongdoing.
Despite such statements by the detained scientists, these officials say Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and other members of the Defence Committee of the Cabinet, as well as a number of other ministers, are in full picture regarding the investigation.
According to a cabinet minister, the detailed power-point briefing given to them leaves little doubt about Dr Khan’s role in the proliferation network. On the prime minister’s instruction, a similar briefing was also given to Nawaz Sharif at the Punjab House, but at that time, and on Mr Gilani’s instructions, the decision regarding any action against Dr Khan was put on hold. But now the authorities are seriously considering going for his trial, where most of this evidence could be presented on top of the material collected with the help of other countries like Britain, Germany, UAE and Switzerland, where many members of the proliferation network have been arrested.
A former ISI chief, who was indirectly overseeing the probe into the network’s activities, says the Pakistani investigators have mapped out the manner in which the network operated out of Pakistan, and how some top officials of the Kahuta Research Laboratory (KRL) used their otherwise unchecked authority to use various shipments for proliferation. The role of a Sri Lankan shady character, Burhary Sayed Abu Tahir, as a close associate of Dr Khan, comes quite prominently in such findings. He is described as the lynchpin in the shipment racket of precision tools from Malaysia and other equipment and their components from Pakistan to their hub in Dubai for onward supply to various countries, particularly Iran and Libya.
A government official present at the briefing said details presented by the investigators showed that in most cases equipment parts of ‘P-1’- and ‘P-2’- type centrifuges and other material were shipped out through various companies, either as scrap or damaged parts. However, in one particular case, centrifuges were smuggled out to Libya in casings of ‘Baktar Shikan’ anti-tank missiles that were being exported to Libya, and which were being manufactured at KRL.
Other materials allegedly smuggled out included several documents, bomb designs, and a 15-page convergence design document.
He said this largely happened because the KRL had a blanket cover to get its consignments pass through customs and security without any check. During the height of proliferation, during 1987 to 1998, the official said, about 18 tonnes of material were smuggled out by air in small- and medium-size crates.
The shipments of centrifuges to North Korea were much later, and were separate from the earlier operation, the officials said.
Experts and analysts say in that the wake of the claims and counter-claims, and contradictory statements by Dr Khan and the SPD chief Gen Khalid Ahmed Kidwai, the only way to establish the truth could be by way of presenting documentary evidence either before parliament or in a court of law.
Re: AQ Khan: Centrifuges sold to N Korea at Mushy's consent
does the 'some' include the role of the unprecedented proliferation by Musharraf? These arent ball pens that AQ smuggled in 2000 or 2001 afterall.
Spock bhaijan. What proof do you have of Great President Musharaf’s involvement? Don’t you want a UN/IAEA inquiry to find the real culprits of the heinous crime of proliferation of Nuclear Weapons Technology by Pakistanis to terrorist states? Or are you saying you only want an inquiry if it can be guaranteed that only Great President Musharaf and AQ KHan are found guilty of this heinous crime 
Again, its funny how you associate musharrafs crimes to ‘pakistanis’. This was done by Musharraf, got it? Read above, pretty much everyone, since the day AQ was house arrested knew the retarded/senile General had a big guilty sign around him. So dont ask me those ‘are you saying this’, are you saying that questions pretending you dont know whats going on.
The whole world knows Musharraf if equally responsible. That bachoon ki story book ‘in the line of grass’ that he wrote for the west, admits it all happened under him, and only a dunce can believe it all went on without his knowledge.
Hahaha. Spock bhaijan. You really have no proof against Great President Musharaf, th Greatest Pakistani leader since Quaid-e-Azam. Is that why you are afraid of the UN/IAEA inquiry, aren’t you?
Its the same proof that you have against Dr. AQ Khan Malik73 bhaijaan
LOL. Spock bhaijan. Let there be a UN/IAEA Inquiry. What are you afraid of? Have I hit a raw nerve.
Re: AQ Khan: Centrifuges sold to N Korea at Mushy's consent
Aalsi, where did I say I was afraid of a inquiry? Bring it on, I dont need an inquiry to realize Musharraf is guilty though, but for the dimaghs full of charbi, sure, bring on all the inquiries you want!
Hahaha. Spock bhaijan. Have you filed an FIR yet? Make sure you have the proof ready.
FIR ki zaroorat nahee hai, AQ’s statements blaming Musharraf have already made the west aware of the mistake they made by retaining this worthless garbage scow dictator my friend.
Also, where is your FIR against AQ Khan?
Re: AQ Khan: Centrifuges sold to N Korea at Mushy's consent
AQ Khan should not be humiliated nationwide and internally like this. He was a part of the Nuclear Team that gave Pakistan a gem, for God's sake. When will the internal enemies stop and realize to value their assets?
If anything AQ Khan should be defended on all level by the stringpullers (i.e. Govt. and Politicians). This same ingratitudefull attitude of the Govt. to please outsiders against their people's mandate is one of the reasons Pakistanis run from their own homeland because they realize even if they obtain higher education, no one will value them and instead they'll have to seek a sifarish to place them in a position half as worthy of their education.
The attitude has got to change. You see no other country humiliate their scientists like this. Others wish to point to Pakistan and AQ Khan as if Pakiland is the first nation in the world to have exported sensitive technology. Simply not true. Sad thing is, knowing all this the world turns a blind-eye.
How did Israel get their nukes? Can you name one country that might have helped the process along? The choice is obvious.
It's time for the elected politicians to give up their metric-pass mentality and learn to serve the people who bring them to power. If anyone's to be investigated, it should be the members of parliament, ex and current. You'll find a lot of smoking guns in there.
The intelligence agencies of Pakistan have a bigger role to play by bringing the corrupt into light and filtering them out so that more Patriots, true patriots, can earn their place where they're in a position to serve the people and the nation as a whole.
This UN investigation and what-not is like inviting intruders to come map your house so next time they want to raid unannounced, it will be very easy. Not acceptable!
Re: AQ Khan: Centrifuges sold to N Korea at Mushy's consent
dinn benazir suposedly take plans in her pockets at the behest of the military when she was PM?
and as all are saying that military knew, then obviously our top military guy kiyani who everyone is a fan of all of a sudden was aware as well, being ISI and all.
so what to do with him?
Re: AQ Khan: Centrifuges sold to N Korea at Mushy's consent
Why is AQ being the only one being punished, and hidden (so that he doesnt spill the beans)... Be it Kiyani or Kheesiyani, Musharraf of whoever else, if they want to make AQ the scapegoat, he has every right to name his accomplices, especially if they are ruling and dictating the nation.