Any racist experiences?

Hi, hehe! today something happened to me. I was coming back from work that a car full of football players from my university pulled up and just started “fahaashi”. Called me some racist terms such as a “Camel Jockey” and a “sand nigger” and then used alot of “nazeba language” and just sat in the car and ran away.

Haha! 5 foot ball players and main akaila, is liye I didnt say anything. Warna khoobe thukayee hoti. Anyway it was something funny and thought I would share with you guys. So any of you had any incidences like this?

hey. Racist experiences? I got called the most unorginal word ever 'Paki' I mean if the idiot was gonna call me names at least he could have come up with something original..Paki? thats just like 'old school' so I goes to him 'although it may be very hard for you but at least try,..key word being try, to think of a name that at least sounds original' ha!

Sure...tons :)


Beauty Lies In The Eyes Of The BeerHolder

So that is why all the Desi's walking outside
in the malls and offices, here in the west,
have always the same expression...as if:

  1. They have just been harrassed like Ali.

  2. They think they are going to be.

I don't think it is wise, to dismiss such
kinds of racist attacks. In this event, Ali
you are lucky, you didn't get hurt. But what
such an experience does to a person's psyche
is very regrettable.

Someone come up to you and out of the blue,
without any provocation, yells out a stream
of obscenities and racial slurs. What do you
say to that ?. "You @#@#! sand ni*er!". Now
is there any reply that you could have poss-
ibly come up with, in this instance, that
will make you whole again ?. That would make
you feel, once again, welcome & comfortable
among the majority ?.

Once a bell is rung, it cannot be un-rung.

Once you have been put in your second-class
citizen place, you will remain there. It is
no wonder that most of the Desi(Indian and
Pakistani) youth, feel more in common with
Blacks and Hispanics than the preppy, white
Suburban majority.

US in particular is extremely racist. There
are right now, more than 320+ seperate and
independant hate groups, registered at the
Southern Poverty Law Center, operated by
Moris Dees. There are 20 hate crimes reg./
month in the US. Thousands like this, will
go unreported.

You can choose to brush it off, but you have
seen the ugly side of these westerners, these
so-called "civilised" people. And I tell you,
you have seen nothing yet. Give the avg.
american a drink, take him/her into your
confidence and then hear his spew his
guts out, as to how the 'colored' folks are
eating up their america and what should
happen to them.

The only way, to counter this, is through
education and unity. Just like the jews did.
They worked hard, studied, stayed together
and helped each other, once they got here to
the US. Now there isn't a more powerful lobby
in the US Congress than AIPAC and the JDL.

United we (kick their lily white a*), and divided *we get(kicked).

Thakur

PS: Ali, just a reminder. Walk with your
head held high. Never, never walk like a
typical desi, with his head into the ground
in front of him. Walk like you mean biznis,
and look dead-straight into their eyes. It
will keep the awara doggies from taking a
panga with you. And I hope you maintain a

good physical presence. Healthy body, has a
healthy mind. Next time, give them a finger.
Thats what I did and the guys just froze... ;)

Itne ziyda racist/discrimination keh experiences hain keh kya bataoN magar me ne ab jawab dena sik lya he!
I hate those people jo istarah karte hain!!!

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Next time, give them a finger.<<<<

not a wise thing to do yaar. next thing u might get is a bullet. you should have jotted down their vehicle number or memorised it and should call 911. explaining what you just witnessed.... thats the best way to deal with this.

let me put it this way. how many of you think that u are not racist? can u say that u are not biased against groups of people due to their color, religion, nationality etc.?

Well Well…there isn’t a shortage of ignorant people in the world..that’s for sure.

Anyway, when someone tries to judge you and take and ignorant approach towards you due to your race, ethnicity, religion etc, then in my opinion they should be given a piece of one’s mind. Stand up for yourself. Don’t do anything dumb..which might land you in a hospital, but one should always keep poise in a way..that no one would dare mess with them!!!
Go show the world what you are made of and that it is not easy to mess with a muslim!!

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About 10 years ago I used to work in KFC in the evenings after finishing my college, and was well known in the town of West Drayton (because of working in the restaurant). I think I should tell u about West Drayton, its a pure gora area (with few asians and almost non blacks), and most of the goray are single mothers etc etc, people on dole.

It was friday evening (about 2 a.m Saturday I should say) and I had my pay after the shift and I was happily walking home when three drunk boys almost same age as mine (I was 18 then) appeared from no where and asked to hand all my money to them and called me paki and blah blah blah, one of them had a big knife. I thought twice how to tackle the situation, and i saw an empty bottle of bear on the canal bridge where i was standing, next thing was noise of glass bottle breaking on one of the guys head, how could I give him my hard working money just like that. The guy with the knife simply vanished and I threw the other guy in the canal, Good Bye, and walked home. That is a separate issue that Police was involved later on but no one even thought of touching me after that. Always remember once u reply the attack, u will never be attacked by the same person or group again. So dont sit down until and unless u know that u will be killed.

ZZ: I agree with u, I think asian muslims are the most racist people on earth, who hate kalay because they are kalay (wiasay kaloon hee harkatain hee aisee hain keh they make the other people hate them), and also hate goray, (tell me how many goray friends an average asian have who came in Europe or USA from Pakistan and Indian) and in the end when they are hated, they always call, kalay and goray both are ba***rd racist.

[This message has been edited by Najim (edited March 03, 2000).]

Excellent post Ali. Thanks for sharing your experience with us.

It'll be interesting to see what other's have faced in this realm.

I remember one incident. It is around 8 years ago when one day I was walking back home and there is this young white guy in a passeger seat looking at me. As I passed by him and looked back at him, he "SOB".

Too bad, it didn't know the meaning of SOB then because I was in here for only a week.

“>>>>> (wiasay kaloon hee harkatain hee aisee hain keh they make the other people hate them), <<<…”

The above is an example of racist attitude and bigotry. Stereotyping Blacks (and everyone else as well).

Racism and prejudice of any sort is the lowest of the lowest of behaviors, regardless of where it comes from.

I have had a couple of minor experiences, nothing to write home about. But I handled myself very well and showed restraint. I could have started to get even, but that would only make me equal to them. If I want to fight racism, I mustn’t become part of it.

I must agree with u NYAHMADI, but should I also see the exact theme of that para, I think u and me if not 100% then at least some percent are included in that catagory.

Dear Najim, I should ve been clear. I agree, you used this example in the context of how many people (of our racial background) are prejudiced against other races. I didn’t mean to imply that YOU feel it that way.

You are absolutely right. I also know a lot of Pakistanis who show feelings of incomfortability with Blacks and Hispanics in the USA. It is sad that they do it.

Having been born and brought up in a comfy little town in East Anglia with a handful of Asians (from East Africa and still fewer Pakistanis), lots of Pensioners and middle class “whites”, my childhood (80s) was as good as anyone’s (roller-skating, flying kites and playing on building sites). It was only occasionally punctuated by fear of Punks (more to do with their radical haircuts and my mum’s warnings than anything they said or did) and the excitement of the news that the Skinheads (National Front) were planning to attack our local mosque. Talk about being united in a crises, our community was exemplary in conducting round-the-clock vigils, families came to stay in the mosque whilst the men became macho and roamed around with hockey sticks and “walkie-talkies”. Oh man! The defence, the communication, the strategy and even the police (with their Alsatians)…it was something to be seen. I even stocked up on sweets, crisps and cola. Yes, towards the end there was a feeling of anti-climax but the excitement was electric! I seem to recall that in the end they caught a measly kid or something, but that’s not the point. The point is, although we were a minority, we stood together, with solidarity and became a force to reckon with! We lived happily ever after.

A few years since, we moved to England’s 2nd City and I love the atmosphere because its soo multi-cultural and so diverse…

It seems racism and Islamophobia is everywhere. Now, I’m not saying this should be overlooked. But personally, as a Muslim woman (yes, I wear hijab), I truly feel I am respected here for taking a practical stand in what I believe in (probably coz I don’t have to deal with “rouge” elements), whilst my experience in Pakistan and indeed a few other “Muslim” countries is one of being “looked down upon”. Racism perhaps? Or just my “radical” dress sense? Or just their infatuation with the “Pepsi, Pop & Levi” culture (globalisation in its narrowest sense). Now if wore hipsters with crop top and had a belly ring…would the picture have been different? Maybe not…I mean I still have Asian skin (although judging by the compliments, I don’t think there’s anything the matter with it at all). So, since charity begins at home, I guess we should get the racist element out of our own people first and then go for the international stage.

But as always, I’m still paranoid, (despite the better forecast)…if there’s a war…the sleeping National giant will rise its ugly head…and, well, we’re sitting ducks as targets. Aren’t we?
Having been born and brought up in a comfy little town in East Anglia with a handful of Asians (from East Africa and still fewer Pakistanis), lots of Pensioners and middle class “whites”, my childhood (80s) was as good as anyone’s (roller-skating, flying kites and playing on building sites). It was only occasionally punctuated by fear of Punks (more to do with their radical haircuts and my mum’s warnings than anything they said or did) and the excitement of the news that the Skinheads (National Front) were planning to attack our local mosque. Talk about being united in a crises, our community was exemplary in conducting round-the-clock vigils, families came to stay in the mosque whilst the men became macho and roamed around with hockey sticks and “walkie-talkies”. Oh man! The defence, the communication, the strategy and even the police (with their Alsatians)…it was something to be seen. I even stocked up on sweets, crisps and cola. Yes, towards the end there was a feeling of anti-climax but the excitement was electric! I seem to recall that in the end they caught a measly kid or something, but that’s not the point. The point is, although we were a minority, we stood together, with solidarity and became a force to reckon with! We lived happily ever after.

A few years since, we moved to England’s 2nd City and I love the atmosphere because its soo multi-cultural and so diverse…

It seems racism and Islamophobia is everywhere. Now, I’m not saying this should be overlooked. But personally, as a Muslim woman (yes, I wear hijab), I truly feel I am respected here for taking a practical stand in what I believe in (probably coz I don’t have to deal with “rouge” elements), whilst my experience in Pakistan and indeed a few other “Muslim” countries is one of being “looked down upon”. Racism perhaps? Or just my “radical” dress sense? Or just their infatuation with the “Pepsi, Pop & Levi” culture (globalisation in its narrowest sense). Now if wore hipsters with crop top and had a belly ring…would the picture have been different? Maybe not…I mean I still have Asian skin (although judging by the compliments, I don’t think there’s anything the matter with it at all). So, since charity begins at home, I guess we should get the racist element out of our own people first and then go for the international stage.

But as always, I’m still paranoid, (despite the better forecast)…if there’s a war…the sleeping National giant will rise its ugly head…and, well, we’re sitting ducks as targets. Aren’t we?

Most of the incidents described above are nothing more than random acts of few trouble makers who just happent to pick on somebody whom they saw was alone. I think this could have happened to any person seen as weak or unable to put up a fight (though the slurs be a little different), be it a caucasian.

I wouldn't consider these acts as racist mainly because they weren't preplanned. A racist attack to me would be a grocery owner refusing to sell me something, a restaurant refusing to serve me, being passed over for a job based on my color, being profiled by cops etc, etc.

Something as random as someone calling you a slur while driving or giving you a finger on the street hardly constiutes racism. Sure it represents lack tolerance but not racism.

On the side note: If it weren;t for the blacks fighting for their rights in the 60's, the desis wouldn;t be able to live a single day in US. It is because of them that we enjoy equality in all faucets of our lives in the US. Heck I wasn;t marching to DC or boycotting buses, neither were my parents!! Lets give credit where credit is due!

haaan yaara mra racist experience buhat kharab hai.

mein nay aur meray doston nay mil kar aik banday koh buhat mara tha, un dinon pakistan mein fasaad buhat ho rahay thay, uss baycharay ko sirf subai asbiyat ki wajah say mara tha. Mein college mein tha aur bas yara..abhi bhi socchta hoon buhat ghalat kiya.

Allah hum logon ko maaf karay, hum nay uss baycharay ko bilah wajah mara peeta tha.

I live in a town in South East England with very few asians. I must say I have never experienced any issues with racism.

I was the only asian in Primary School, and the only asian in my year group at secondary (high) school. Again no problems there.

Darling Me> Where abouts in East Anglia are you? You must be fairly close to where I am.

Alibeta,

In 1991, groups of MQM attacked the houses of old Sindhi residents in Hyderabad after the failure of Qila operation during Benazir’s first tenure. They not only killed innocent man, women and children but also defaced the women by embossing MQM on their breasts, hips and private parts. In Karachi they also killed innocent people whose only fault was that they spoke different language or belong to different culture. I still remember when a group of bastards attacked a private hospital in Quaid’s Mazar, and wanted to kill the well known Sindhi doctor who was running the clinic since decades, when they did not find him, they killed six patients belonging to Baloch tribe. This barbarism and ethnic cleansing was only to show anger against Benazir who belonged to Larkana. When I see movies like “Hay Ram” and “Earth” , I believe in them 100% because what they showed in movies, had actually happened to Muslim Sindhis who were generous to help those beggars came from India in 1947. After going through all this non-sense, I have no doubt, that majority came in Sindh in 1947 and afterwards was cutthroat and criminals.

What racism are you talking about? First see in your heart how much are you racist in your heart. Believe me people here are less racist than back in your country from you belong. I apologize for being so direct but stupid topic like this in West is no thing but showing the height of hypocrisy we practice as Muslims every where.

FARID

Every majority holds a prejudice against ANY minority that can not or WILL NOT join the main stream.

Western societies are open and allow expression at a degree that is sometimes idiotic.

However, those are the rules and you play by them.
If not then be bold enough to be an exception, not just in appearence, but in your heart and mind as well.

There is no real sense in trying to argue that everyone should accept you for what or who you are. They have other levels and understanding of morality while you may have a different perspective.

If any American (whatever creed, colour, origin of race) was to turn up in Tira'h and try to act in a manner he/she is acustomed to in LA or DC, I would have no quibbles or qualms about correcting him/her.

Things, manners, language, dress, eitequette and demeanour acceptable in Khyber is not the same and I would expect them to comply.

I presume they feel the same way when I walk down a mall with my Shalwar Kameez Cotee and hat.

The question is whether my doing so, is disrespectful to them in any way. I believe not, they might not agree.

Then it just comes down to who has the moral, physical and mental conviction to over power the other.

Bottom line,

If you are different, you should expect prejudice and bear it it whatever fashion you deem appropriate.

Some of us were taught to let our courage and fists be the leveller.
Others use their patience and ability to withstand prejudice.

Either way, one thing is certain. Cosmopolitan or not, if you are not the main stream, you WILL suffer prejudice. Accept it and deal with it.