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define innocent civillian in the middle of a damn war.
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someone working for a construction company?
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These namak-ha**s fear from the armed soldiers so they always avoid Mardana (manly) fight. These little bibis (women) will hide behind trees, other women and children.
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Don't mean to defend the slaughterers/murderers, but how manly is a fight when you receive a bomb dropped on you? How manly is it to drop cluster bomb from miles in the sky? ............ just curious
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*Originally posted by Captain1: *
Don't mean to defend the slaughterers/murderers, but how manly is a fight when you receive a bomb dropped on you? ....
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Check your English and then ask some MAToo supporters. They are the ones sitting in caves sending out ‘manly’ video love letters to Al-Janaza.
All those who give fatwa of such kind are jahannamies for sure. Killing someone is gonahe kabera-- an unforgivenable act from GOD side. If a person is beheaded or killed otherwise it amounts to killing in islam.
What people used to do in prophet's time or what perhaps he used to do, and why they used to do is no way tells us what to do now?
We have been given Quran a religious law book to follow. Quran says killer is jahanname as he committed unforgiven able sin. Killing one human being is equal to killing whole humanity.
Still if someone dares to give such Fatwa is JAHANAME do not obey him.
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*Originally posted by sokoon: *
All those who give fatwa of such kind are jahannamies for sure. Killing someone is gonahe kabera-- an unforgivenable act from GOD side. If a person is beheaded or killed otherwise it amounts to killing in islam.
What people used to do in prophet's time or what perhaps he used to do, and why they used to do is no way tells us what to do now?
We have been given Quran a religious law book to follow. Quran says killer is jahanname as he committed unforgiven able sin. Killing one human being is equal to killing whole humanity.
Still if someone dares to give such Fatwa is JAHANAME do not obey him.
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didnt you say in another thread that even christians can go to heaven because we are no one to judge, while you are here calling any one who fights for islam and his land to directly go to hell with out ever hesitating to think what you just said? hmm..
Another westerner has been beheaded. Any word on fatwas against beheadings?
Or should we continue to bury our heads in the sand as usual?
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*Originally posted by Sadiqaan: *
Another westerner has been beheaded. Any word on fatwas against beheadings?
Or should we continue to bury our heads in the sand as usual?
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that westerner worked for a company providing logistical support to american army, so i see no reason to have fatwas about that.
or would it please you that muslims not even kill soldiers in war and declare them "innocent" soldiers and accept death from them.
Listen..... I may be missing something but can you please tell me when and who mutilate dead bodies of Pak soldiers? I heard four Amercian soldiers body beared this treatment long time back but when did this happen with Pak soldiers?? Please do answer.
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And only Be-Ghairat MAToos advocate beheading unarmed civilians. The same Be-Ghairats who mutilated dead bodies of Pak-soldiers.
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*Originally posted by ThandyMazaq: *
that westerner worked for a company providing logistical support to american army, so i see no reason to have fatwas about that.
or would it please you that muslims not even kill soldiers in war and declare them "innocent" soldiers and accept death from them.
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You must undertand ThandyMazaq, that the first instinct of our inferiority complex ke shikaar liberal muslims is to bend over to the West.
If that means comprimising everything you believe in including your life, so be it.
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*Originally posted by skhan: *
You must undertand ThandyMazaq, that the first instinct of our inferiority complex ke shikaar liberal muslims is to bend over to the West.
If that means comprimising everything you believe in including your life, so be it.
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This makes you sound like Bush; throwing labels around detracts from the discussion.
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*Originally posted by Sahar02: *
This makes you sound like Bush; throwing labels around detracts from the discussion.
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You can say the same for the others on this thread. Maybe this way they can realize their stereotyping.
Fatwa or no fatwa, here’s the position of the Muslim Council of Britain. These views concur with the vast majority of decent, sensible muslims (in UK at least), who don’t need a fatwa from some Matoo telling them what they should think:
http://www.mcb.org.uk/presstext.php?ann_id=116
The Muslim Council of Britain is appalled and profoundly saddened by the reported cold-blooded murder of Mr Kenneth Bigley after a protracted period of mental torture and anguish.
We offer our heartfelt sympathy and condolences to the Bigley family who have gone through the most dreadful of experiences. Throughout this terrible ordeal we have maintained close contact with Ken’s family.
The MCB’s Secretary General, Iqbal Sacranie said:
“There can be absolutely no justification for the killing of this defenceless individual. This is a deed that is deeply repugnant and morally reprehensible. We unequivocally condemn it and hope that Ken’s murderers are brought to justice swiftly.”
Mr Sacranie added:
“Sadly, the humanitarian mission to Iraq undertaken by Dr Daud Abdullah, MCB Assistant Secretary-General, and Dr Musharraf Hussain was not able to secure the desired outcome in this case. However their efforts will serve to underscore the complete and utter rejection of these kinds of vile and barbaric actions by the vast majority of the worldwide Muslim community. "
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*Originally posted by Kaleem: *
Sadiqaan, What do you think Islam says about it? What does common sense tells you? Is killing of innocnets allowed in Islam? I will not even go into the barbaric way they are killing these people....just think and ask yourself...Is that what isalm teaches us?
Ant man, give it a rest...maybe he was looking to see if any of the islamic muftis had the courgae to condemn these barabric acts.
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People people, I think this post sheds a lot of light on the question.