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shaking head in disbelief.
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Mere dil ki baat kar di.
What I don’t understand is some Pashtuns still want to be with Pakistan, Pakistan is such a cheap identity, it’s just a hollow culture without any proper heritage or anything, no saqaafat, no tehzeeb just oopar ki fake show sha with naach gaana and stuff.
If I had heroes like Sher Shah Suri, Ghauri, Abdali, Ghaznavi to look upto in my ethnic group who once had an Empire of their own I would so want me to be recognised by my own ethnicity and nation instead of some crappy make belief one.
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This news is completely moot and this strike is nothing to write home about either. It was only a bunch of supporters who were on the streets trying to create violence and it was b/c of fear of violence that transport was not running. So, there was no popular support to the strike.
LuxuryItem I was watching that interview as well, (if we’re talking about the same one) did Musharraf not say that Sindhis should be thankful for the Kalabagh dam b/c…(and he gave some reasons which I don’t remember but which were pretty convincing).
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Federal govt. could flatten Bugti’s but it’d only feed fuel to the fires of other “interest” groups and give ammo. to their propaganda campaigns.
What Pakistan and PAKISTANIS needs is better dialog amongst each other and discussion of what’s behind these strikes.
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Govt needs to deploy army in Balochistan, heavy contingents, and do an “Operation Cleanup” like they did in Karachi to get rid of MQM. End all these strongholds of Sardaars.
Balochi sardars care neither for Balochis nor for Pakistan and there is no point in having any talks with them b/c their agenda is simply one of self interest.
These are the same people who said they will go directly to America for help against Pak Army, and I’m sure they have already.
They are blowing up railway lines and power stations in Balochistan…what is that achieving? Shows how much they care about the country and the Balochis.
These Balochi Sardars are the same ones who recently signed an agreement saying that they don’t believe in the creation of Pakistan. If you hear the interviews of these folks, they will bring in points such as “Balochistan acceded to Pakistan b/c…” basically they think that they’re an independent entity, hold complete power over Balochistan, they own the land of Balochistan, Balochis are their property and the Federal government has no right to interfere.
Khatmal you’re repeating the words of selfish Balochi leaders. IF they were so concerned about Balochi people why the heck were they making bungalows in Karachi and going in exile in London for themselves when their people were living in abject poverty? Recently there were massive floods in Balochistan. Who helped the Balochis? Them or the central government? They’re always harping on about how the government never did anything for the Balochis. Don’t you think they could have done something to improve the situation of the common man in Balochistan? Surely they could have built some schools, developed some infrastructure so that Balochis could atleast be employed and didn’t have to live the nomadic lifestyle that they do. What have THEY done for Balochis is my question.
Just when the government wanted to do something for the people of Balochistan, create jobs and opportunities for people, with Gwadar, they started all this drama so that their control on the local Balochis would not diminish, which it would have if all the development the govt was planning were to take place.
Sucks 
I don’t UNDERSTAND HOW any Pakistani can fall for this propaganda. Only MQM folks can, who’ve always been known to have their own selfish agenda.
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Well Ranjeet Singh in Punjab and Raja Dahir in Sindh have been in the new enlightened retarded Pakistan given a status of heroes and their lives and contribution marked out to be emulated for the futrue generations of punjabis and sindhis…So progress have been made, I would say…
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No thanks. You can migrate to India instead 
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For all the messengers of doom: Spread your propaganda elsewhere, no one is falling for it here. Take it to some Indian board.
There is no war-like situation in Balochistan, killing of Baluchis/Pathans by Pak army, or any CHANCE of anything happenning to the country the way you have described.
P.A.K.I.S.T.A.N. Z.I.N.D.A.B.A.D. 
Contrary to what people might like others to believe, there is no dichotomy of opinion among the people of the country and we’re united and steadfast ALHAMDULILLAH.
Jo apni qom aur mulk ka naheen ho saka woh kisi ka bhee naheen ho sakta 
A bunch of such selfish and turncoat Sardars even with Indian/American help cannot hijack the peace of the country and the unity of the nation
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Irem Good responses....
Let all these"Ghaddar Thugs(Hidden Indians)" burn in hell...:p
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Nice responses Irem. I aggree with what you have said in your posts. But i think that government should take a strong notice of what ever is going on. It should not be taken lightly and anyone that tries to break Pakistan or create a divide among the people should be treated like ghaddars. Allah Pakistan ko apnay hifz-o-iman main rakhay. Amin.
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irem has some very good points yet nothing can justify the killing of innocent pakhtuns by the army and pakhtuns and balochis being treated as third class citizens of pakistan
and yes ghadars should be treated as ghadars but the people of pakistan should all be euqal and pakistan should be just that and not punjabistan :)
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Irem, brilliantly courted response :k:
You’re so right, these Baluchi sirdars really care for no one. They didn’t let any infrastructure get to their province, for the fear they may lose their hegemony over the poor, illiterate population. Now whatever is there, they’re trying to blow up.
A friend from Baluchistan recently told me, that in some poor Baluchi village if the sirdaar says that suraj aaj nahin niklaay ga the people would rather believe that what’s in sky is something else. They are demigods of their lands.
Now, they are bartering for more power, more money for themselves. All these supposedly poor-baluch-sympathisers on this forum know that nothing is going to trickle down to the poor masses. They’re going to remain as wretched as they were.
The solution is really to put an end to this feudal cycle, but the Baluch people have to be really motivated themselves in order to do that. The govt can only do as much to contain their power as they did, like putting cantonments bang in the middle of the tribal strongholds etc.
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Pakistan definitly has its problems, one of which is certainly centralization of power in Punjab, but people who want to break it into pieces and give it back to India are traitors 4 sure........
Dont forget with the migrations of various ethnicities all over the country, those wanting to break up Pakistan would advocate another bloody partition, except this time muslims kiling muslims. Talk about a step backwards..........
Pakistan zindabad............
And inshallah we'll beat India to get you haters heated again tomarrow
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Chegu, you did know that Karachi is a part of Sindh right?
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Actually you’re wrong.
If you’re anti Punjabi but not anti Punkab, it simply means you want to drive them out and take their land
somewhat like what palestines say Israel does to them and Israel says Arabs do to them
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Your analogies are as ridiculous as your posts, dude. Go get a life.
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^how is it ridiculous?
I like my life. partiularly when I get to read your masterpieces
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I am alluding to the speech he delivered at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Govt.
Only if you want govt. to act on behalf of poor and abused in Interior Sind and Punjab as well, then let’s wipe out the village elders who ordered Mukhtaran Mai’s rape. I say flatten those choudhry’s as well. Why stop there? Ex Pakistani president Farooq Laghari, upon arriving in office as an elected president of Pakistan, settled a court case in his favor involving disputed land making him, if not the largest, one of the largest land owning feudals in Pakistan. Shall we take him out too?
Hypocrisy.
Last Balochi insurgency occurred around 1970-71. 33/34 years is a long enough time to bring a group of people in the national fold. If I considered someone a countrymen or a brother, last thing I’d do is reason with them by “bombing” the living day lights out of them. Pakistanis like you don’t really consider Balochis true Pakistanis to begin with; you wouldn’t even afford them the courtesy of a dialog – they are those uncouth tribesmen. Nobody said creating a national identity out of disparate ethnicities was an easy task. But nobody really tried, and then there are people like you who support suppressing dissension by violent means or any means necessary. I expect such views from you; however, what’s frightening is how prevalent similar view are amongst Pakistanis.
It’s amazing when Israelis resort to razings and assasinations, it’s a genocide. But when Pakistani govt. embarks on such “Operation Cleanups” on its own citizens, it’s national security.
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Any government that needs to kill its own people to solve its problems, is a disgrace.
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Not exactly…historically its part of Balochistan…Lasbella which in is Balochistan is almost within the borders of Karachi (in other words Karachi borders Balochistan and it would not be farfetched to include it in Balochistan)…and anything on the western bank of Indus, particuarly down in Sindh by the coast is geographically, connected to Balochistan…Also the imperial and later socialist/communist government of Afghanistan, claims all areas west of Indus as their territory, which also includes Karachi…
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By the same token Sindh is joined with Punjab and we should go ahead lump it in as well. :)
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Its all part of Pakistan now, so stop whining.