Answer to Modernism

Mawlana Ashraf Ali Thanawi’s Answer to ModernismSummarized by Ali Altaf Mian

Mawlana Ashraf Ali Thanawi (1863-1943) is the foremost representative of Islam in the last century. In his era some “New-Age Muslims” had fallen prey to Empiricism, and had begun to challenge and object to the most fundamental tenets of Islamic belief. Mawlana Thanawi proves that the objections raised by the Western-oriented Muslims are irrational. Not only are Islamic creedal tenets defined in revelation (the Qur’an and the Hadiths), but they are rational as well. In his famous treatise, Answer to Modernism, he lays down seven principles by which all of these modern objections can be refuted. The study of these principles will prove to be an intellectual tool for Muslims living in contemporary times. These principles will rationally aid the Muslims to refute all modern notions in contradiction with the Qur’an and the Hadiths.
Mawlana Thanawi’s Seven First Principles

  • **One’s inability to understand something is no argument for its being false. **
    This principle is based on Ibn Sina’s famous philosophical notion:

عدم الوجدان لا يدل على عدم الوجود

“Absence of understanding does not warrant absence of existence.”

For example, 200 years ago, if a commoner was informed that in the future there would be airplanes and satellites, he or she would not understand this concept; however, he or she could not make an argument that airplanes and satellites are impossible. Thus, not understanding a concept of something unobserved does not warrant its non-existence.

If a thing is rationally possible, and its existence is attested by sound report, then it is necessary to accept its existence. On the other hand, if its non-existence is attested by sound report, then it is equally necessary to accept its non-existence.

According to Ibn Sina, “Being” is of three kinds:

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  • Necessary (wajib)—e.g. 1+1=2
  • Impossible (mumtani)—e.g. 1=2
  • Possible (mumkin)—e.g. There are 200,000 trees in Santa Barbara, California.

[/LIST]The first two types are clear. The third type is contingent upon further verification. If information is received from a person that there are 200,000 trees in Santa Barbara, it is possible that they may be right. There are two ways one can go about verifying this report:
Counting all the trees in Santa Barbara (a task which is very difficult).
Or
2.Evaluating the reliability and credibility of the reporter.
If the conveyer is a sound reporter (mukhbir al-sadiq), then it is rational to accept their report. However, if the conveyer is unsound and unauthentic, then one can not rely on his or her report, and must conduct the verification by him or herself. In Islam, the Messenger of Allah, Muhammad (peace be upon him), is the conveyer of revelation to his followers. We rely on him and accept his reports unconditionally because of his matchless genuineness and truthfulness. The Qur’an says about him:

وَمَا يَنْطِقُ عَنِ الْهَوَى

Nor does he speak of (his own) desire.
إِنْ هُوَ إِلَّا وَحْيٌ يُوحَى
It is only a Revelation revealed (al-Najm: 3-4)

He conveyed to the Muslims that there is one God, Allah, and that there is paradise (jannah), hellfire (jahannam), the Day of Judgment (yawm al-qiyamah), the Jinn, the angels (al-mala’ika), etc. Allah revealed to him the Qur’an that informs of their existence, thus, whatever he conveyed to us, we believe wholeheartedly. Furthermore, it is rational to accept the attestation of possible existences by a sound reporter. The reason that we claim that these creedal beliefs of ours are rational is because irrationality arises upon impossibility, which in turn arises upon the following two conditions:

  1. Gathering of opposites (jam‘al-didayn)—e.g. If one says that at this time (let us suppose its 2:30 P.M) there is both day and night, or if one says that I am here and not here, etc.
    2.Absence of opposites (raf‘al-didayn)—e.g. If one says that it is neither day or night at this time, or says that I am not here and not anywhere else, etc.

Opposites in this context refer to the four logical statements:
1.Universal Affirmative—e.g. all humans are mammals.
2.Particular Affirmative—e.g. some humans are Africans.
3.Universal Negative—e.g. no humans are trees.
4.Particular Negative—e.g. some humans are not Asians.
Each of the four has an opposite:
The opposite of Universal Affirmative is Particular Negative (in other words, only a particular negative is needed to cancel out a universal affirmative).
The opposite of Particular Affirmative is Universal Negative.
To claim that the above two sets of opposites are both true is to gather two opposites and to assert that both are false is to have both opposites absent. Both conditions warrant impossibility. If the existence of something does not fall in the two categories mentioned above, then its existence is not Impossible (mumtani), but either Necessary (wajib) or Possible (mumkin). The presence of paradise and hellfire is “Possible” and not “Impossible,” and when a sound reporter informs of their existence then it is rational to accept this report, because relying on sound report is not irrational.

  • **What is rationally impossible is something totally different from what is merely possible. The impossible is opposed to reason itself, while the possible is opposed merely to habit. The predicates of reason and those of habit are quite distinct, and it is erroneous to identify them with each other. What is impossible can never exist, but what is merely possible may exist. It is the impossible alone which can be described as irrational, while the possible is only something which reason cannot understand by itself. It is a great error to confuse one with the other. **
    This principle corresponds to the explanations of the previous principle. By “habit,” Thanawi means the usual nature of things. It is correct to say the possible is unusual but it is wrong to say that the possible is impossible.

  • **If a thing exists, it is not necessary that it must also be sensible and visible. **
    This principle is Thanawi’s main refutation of Empiricism. He points out that there are three ways of ascertaining the truth of a fact:

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  • Through personal observation—e.g. I see Zaid, therefore I believe that Zaid exists.

  • Through sound report from a truthful/genuine reporter—e.g. someone honest and trustworthy informs me of Zaid’s presence, therefore I believe that Zaid exists.

  • Through Rational Argument—e.g. Although, I do not see the sun, but seeing its light from the window, I believe it is day and not night.

[/LIST]Note that among these three ways of ascertaining the truth of a fact, Thanawi explains, existence is present in all, but sensory observation is involved in only one. Similarly the Qur’an says that there are seven heavens, and just because we do not see them, it does not mean that they do not exist.

  • It is not possible to prove a purely reported fact by a purely rational argument. So it is not also permissible to demand a rational argument for it.
    Mawlana Thanawi gives the following example to illustrate this principle:
    Someone tells us that Alexander and Darius were two kings who went into battle against each other. Now, if another person were to demand a rational argument in order to establish this fact, even the greatest philosopher would not be able to present any other argument except this—the existence of two such kings and a war between them is not impossible, but possible enough, and trustworthy historians have reported that this possibility did come into existence, and since it is rationally necessary to affirm a fact as real when we learn from a truthful reporter that what was possible did really happen, we must necessarily accept the report about the two kings as an actual fact (25).

Similar is the case with believing in the previous Prophets of God and the events associated with them. One can not demand a rational argument from the believer, because relying on the report of a truthful reporter is not irrational to begin with. We believe in history based on the report of historians. Today, people believe in Abraham Lincoln not because they have seen him, but because historians have recorded and reported to us that he existed and these are his conditions and this is his picture, etc.

  • There is some difference between a precedent and an argument. It may be justifiable to demand an argument form the man who makes an assertion, but it is not valid to demand a precedent from him.
    It is not just to demand an example from the past to prove an argument. For example, if a person is informed that South East Asia was recently hit by a Tsunami (December 2004), one cannot demand an earlier example of a Tsunami, and say, “I will only believe in this Tsunami if you give me the example of an earlier Tsunami.” Such a demand would not only be irrational but also absurd.
    Allah says:

الْيَوْمَ نَخْتِمُ عَلَى أَفْوَاهِهِمْ وَتُكَلِّمُنَا أَيْدِيهِمْ وَتَشْهَدُ أَرْجُلُهُمْ بِمَا كَانُوا يَكْسِبُونَ

This Day, We shall seal up their mouths, and their hands will speak to Us, and their legs will bear witness to what they used to do. (Yasin: 65)

On the Day of Judgment, limbs of the human body will testify. If anybody says, “I will only believe in this if you show me speaking limbs in this world.” Such a demand would be absurd as well.

  • **There are two types of arguments: conclusive and approximate. A conclusive argument is a logical argument that cannot be contradicted. An approximate argument is one of the possible explanations that may be contradicted. Reason and religious reports have four relationships as far as contradiction is concerned. ****Conclusive contradicting arguments are presented by both reason and report. This is impossible, for two truths cannot contradict each other.****Conclusive argument is found with report and an approximate argument is found with reason. In this case, the report would be accepted and reason would be rejected. **[LIST]
  • **Both contradicting arguments, from reason and report, are approximate. In this case, report would be accepted and reason would be rejected. **
  • **Reason gives a conclusive argument and an approximate argument is conveyed by report, either because of its connotation or its authenticity. In this case, the report is to be interpreted in a non-literal way that does not contradict reason. **

[/LIST]Thus, it is only the last of the above four cases, in which reason (dirayah) is given superiority over a religious report (riwayah).

The application of this last principle is not the task of every person, but such investigations can only be carried out by Islamic theologians who are well-versed in the knowledge needed for such a task.

May Allah guide us all to accept, practice, and explain the truth. Amin.

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excellent post...what a great man ashraf ali thanvi is...he is unmatched ....

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Mujaddid of the 20th century.

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i fully agree...more than 900 books...and everyone is more than another....one of the greatest sufi...mufassir...scholar.....psycholgist...pakistan movement activist.....muhaddis...faqeeh...women revivalist...etc etc....he is really unparalled...

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really a good article:k:

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Nice simple article.

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There is just one thing I didn't correlate to though, what does this have to do with modernity? It is more of a rebuttal to athiest views in my opinion by discussing philisophical aspects.

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Some of the so called modern Mulims deny the existence of angels, jinns etc.

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People denied it even thouands of years ago so I fail to see how modernity has to do with it. To me modernity is about progress. Muslims today who deny such things is because they want assimilate themselves rather than integrate into many non-muslim circles while retaining their identity and beliefs.

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Nice read.

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Some so called Muslims I know who deny these things like angels, jins and punishment of grave and they call themselves modern and people who have faith in the above things mentioned, they call them backward and jahil.

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if I recall correctly there was a fatwa in 1900 by 30+ Ulema from makkah and Madina which specifically named Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi among others. The fatwa noted im and other as "Kafirs."

anyone know more?

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^^
Make another thread if you need answers.

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okay then lets just leave it there as an observation, that he was considered a heretic and more than that in a fatwa..declared a kaffir by noted Ulema of Makkah and Medina in 1900.

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I think that was about Maulana Mawdudi.

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Terminology. Just because they use a word doesn't change its meaning but anyway. I think the article is nice but the title has little to do with it. Its just that scholars often present solutions to problems, which are not meant for the problem as in this case modernity has little to do with the attitude of such muslims, its about their influence of sciences into religion without being able to find a balance between the two.

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I dunno, I looked and found this info, it has the names and background of the ulema who drafted that Fatwa, and it does have Mr. Thanwi included in that

the leading Imams and Jurists of Islam had no hesitation in declaring them as Kaffir, and warned in no uncertain terms that “ANY PERSONS WHO DOUBTS THE KUFR OF THESE PEOPLE WILL THEMSELVES BECOME KAFFIR”.
The names of the Ulama of Makka and Medina who issued the kufr fatwa on the Ulema of Deoband in 1320AH(1900 AD) are listed below. And for a detailed explanation of the fatwa read TAMHEED-E-IMAAN and MUSTATAAB HISAAM-UL-HARAMAIN ALAA MANHER-UL-KUFR WAL MAIN

ULAMA OF MAKKAH SHAREEF

  1. Ustaad-e-Haram - Mufti Muhammad Saeed Shafe
    2 Sayedul Ulama - Moulana Mufti Sheikh Ahmed Abul Khair Mirdad
    3 Mufti Hanafia - Allama Sheihk Saleh Kamaal
  2. Mufti - Sheikh Ali bin Siddiq Kamaal
  3. Sheikud Dalail - Mufti Muhammed Abdul Haq Al-Mujahir Al-Llabadi
  4. Mufti Sayed Ismail Khaleel - Librarian of Mecca
    7 Allama Mufti - Saeed Abul Hoosen Al-Marzuki

8 Mufti Sheikh Abid bin Husain Maaliki
9 Mufti Ali bin Husain Maaliki
10 Mufti Muhammed Jamaal bin Muhhamed Husain
11 Mufti Sheikh Asad bin Ahmed Daha -Teacher Haram Shareef Makkah
12 Mufti Sheikh Abdur Rahman Dahan
13 Mufti Sheikh Muhammed Yusuf Afghani
14 Mufti Sheikh Ahmed Al-Maaliki Al-Imdadi - Brother in Tariqat of Ashraf Ali Thanwi, Rashid Ahmed Gangohi and Khalil Ahmed Ambhetwi
15 Mufti Muhammed Yusuf Al-Khayaat
16 Sheikh Muhammed Saleh bin Muhammed Ba-fazal
17 Sheikh Abdul Karim Naji Dagistani
18 Sheikh Muhammed Saeed bin Muhhamed Al-Yamani
19. Mufti Sheikh Haamid Muhammed Al-Jadawi

ULAMA OF MEDINA SHAREEF
20 Mufti Hanafia - Tajuddin Liyas
21 Mufti of Madina - Allama Osman bin Abdus Salaam Dadistani
22 Sheikh-e-Maalikia - Mufti Sayed Ahmed of Algeria
23 Mufti Khaleel bin Ibrahim Karbooti
24 Shaikhud Dalail - Mufti Sayed Muhammed Saeed
25 Mufti Sheikh Mehmood bin Ahmed Omari
26 Shaikhud Dalail - Mufti Sayed Abbas bin Sayed Jaleel
27 Mufti Skeikh Omar bin Hamdaan Al-Maharasee
28 Mufti Sayed Hakeem Muhammed bin Muhaamed Madani
29 Mufti Sheikh Muhammed Kiyan - teacher Haram Shareef Madina
30 Mufti Shafaeiya - Allama Sayed Shareef Ahmed Barzanji
31 Mufti Muhammed Aziz Maaliki - of Tunisia
32 Mufti Sheikh Abdul Qader Taufeeq - Teacher Masjid-e-Nabawi Shareef

another link

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I'll go against the grain here and say that I was a bit disappointed by the article. For one, as noted by USResident it has very little to do with modernity. It could also be condensed significantly, the logic is repetetive and could be contradicted if this was a two-way dialogue. Since it isnt, the author is able to talk vaguely about general "modern" arguments conveniently formatted to suit his half-corrent logic.

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Well him too then. However it seems that South Asian scholars always seem to make the list of Kaafirs declared by Arab scholars. Never see that happening from South Asian scholars happening to Arab scholars.

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Same way I feel. What is written has little weight to it but has really no contextual affinity with the title or anything for that matter. What was the article supposed to answer? I coudn't relate to that.