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^I wud have given him benefit of doubt had he not tried to get lot of media coverage and applause for his "achievement". The whole media thingy and haar, shaar was sickening.
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I have not been following this very closely, but what did he do in the media that upset you so much. Media is an important way for charity groups to gain exposure and increase their donations. What in particular did you not like?
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What i did not like was his appetite for applause, he called a press conference just to brag about how he heard that an Indian citizen was locked up in jail for 35 years, so he took up the case and arranged for his release. Then followed by bringing him out of jail, putting haars in his neck, parading him infront of media and getting him around in official cars. Afterall he is minister of state of "Pakistan", wasn't it better that he cud negotiate with Indians for getting a few Pakistanis released from Indian jails in exchange for a spy. If he cud have got a single Pakistani out, all this wud have been worth it. But from all that i got an impression that he just wanted to get some attention.
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The government of Pakistan was making a goodwill gesture to india and wanted to highlight this in the international media. What was wrong with that?
Pakistan is in international newspapers and tv channels for all the wrong reasons these days. For once that changes and we get some positive publicity. How would you have preferred it that we released him, let him go and not say anything?
And what do you say about Aitzaz Ahsan who is on tv everyday? Or various politicians and ministers who do press conferences all the time with nothing much to say?
If you do some background research on Ansar Burney, you will see that he has secured release of Pakistanis from all around the world! The guy has gotten the release of innocent Pakistanis from jails all around the world, Pakistanis who even the Government of Pakistan denied any help for. And he has been doing this work for decades.
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Iconoclast, here is some info on other cases Burney has worked on in the past that I posted in another thread by you.
40,000 illegal Pakistani workers deported from Oman in past two years
19 smuggled Pak kids head home
60 Pakistani slaves return from Sudan
Six Pakistanis and one Indian were gunned down to impress america
India releases 43 Pakistani prisoners
1987: 35 years in prison without a crime
1985: 37 years of asylum life for seeking police help
Deaf and Dumb lady prisoner saw free world after 55 years
Pakistanis released from Tanzanian slave labour arrive home
**Mother raped in prison, son is born and raised there and released after 40 years **
*Lahore; 20th February 1988 *
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LAHORE – Believe it or not; an innocent man Mohammed Akhtar, 40, who was born within the high walls of Prison, released today and seen free world after 40 long years. He was released only because of the hectic efforts of Ansar Burney, Advocate.
Since his birth in the prison, Akhtar was unaware of any freedom. Akhtar spent his 40 long precious years including his childhood within the high walls. He took his free breath in the free atmosphere after his birth of fourty long years. His release came fruitful only because of Mr Ansar Burney.
According to details a young woman was arrested by the police and sent to the Jail in 1946. During custody innocent lady was raped. Unfortunate lady gave a birth to a son in 1948. Someone cynically christened the boy Mohammed Akhtar.
No one wanted to claim Akhtar for his own. During custody his mother died when he was only five or six.
When Mr Ansar Burney got the release of Akhtar and took him out in a free atmosphere, the boy was unable to cross the Road. Mr Ansar Burney took the finger of Akhtar in his hand and crossed the road.
Akhtar after came out from the high walls, was looking every thing as he was born today.
Mr Ansar Burney, who was instrumental, is hoping other innocents who are behind the bars on crime they had never committed. Mr Ansar Burney has become an ‘Angel’ for the innocents in Pakistan.
After getting the release of a man who was born in the Prison because of rape to his mother, Ansar Burney has left for Karachi along with Akhtar.
At last the great efforts of Mr Ansar Burney, Advocate has become fruitful as Akhtar got released after fourty long years, after of his birth.
Ansar Burney who is become a hope of justice for innocents, said I want to know from the Government that who will return the long 40 years of Akhtar including his childhood to him? Who is going to do justice with the soul of an innocent mother of Akhtar who died after giving birth to her son? He said the government should do justice in the matter
Will the Real Mehar Din Please Stand up !
Daily Dawn; Friday, May 15, 1987
By Mohammad Ali Siddiqi
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KARACHI, May 14: He was a burly young man – barely 20 – when the Lahore police picked him up on a murder charge that never was proved. He came out of the Karachi Central Jail this week — a man of 40 broken in mind, spirit and body.
His only fault was he bore a name that was also the name of a murderer in a case that had nothing to do with Meher Din.
“Are you Meher Din?” the Lahore Police asked him in 1966.
“Yes”, he replied.
“Where do you live?”
“In Badami Bagh”, he answered.
“Is not your father’s name Imam Din?”
“No my father’s name is Yameen”.
“You are not Meher Din son of Imam Dinwho has committed a murder?”
“No, I am Meher Din, son of Yameen, and I have killed NO one.”
“Well”, replied the police man, “you come with us anyway.”
Meher Din and his brother Yasin were arrested for murder and tried – but acquitted. Nevertheless, they passed four agonising years in Jail, for no fault of theirs, except that the police insisted there was little difference between Meher Din son of Imam Din and Meher Din son of Yameen.
This was, however, not to be the end of our Meher Din’s miseries. Four years later, the Karachi police told Lahore police they were looking for some Meher Din son of Imam Din in yet another murder case. The Lahore police said they had one, and promptly sent Meher Din son of Yameen to the Karachi Police, which locked him up in the Central Jail, which was to be his home for the next 17 years.
Years of confinement, hard labour, poor food and regular beatings, despite his innocence, gradually turned what once was the Pakistan Railway’s conscientious interlocking cleaner into a physically broken middle-aged man who wondered what fate had in store for him.
For years he had no news of his brother and of his sister, Sardaran, in Lahore, not to speak of the little sisters he had left behind long ago in Saharanpur and Malir Kothla in India.
Because of his arrest, the Railway asked him to vacate the Railways home he was occupying, and he often wondered on which Lahore sidewalk his family was passing its life.
Finally, as incarceration and beatings continued, with a court trial nowhere in sight, Meher Din cracked up in 1977 and was transferred to the Psychiatric Ward known to the prisoners as “Charya Ward”.
Ansar Burney, who has been crusading for years for improving conditions in Jails, said “When it comes to beating, there is only a marginal difference between Charya Ward inmates and the ‘normal’ prisoners. Both are subjected to torture and beating, the difference being only one of degree.”
Burney wrote to high ups in the Sindh administration when he came to know of Meher Din’s case and finally succeeded in getting him out of Jail when a Court tried and acquitted him on May 09.
“You had to see Meher Din then to realise the difference between what he was then and what he is now. He is now almost cured,” said Burney.
Unlike his face, which gives traces of abnormality, Meher Din’s responses appeared quite normal and the answers to questions did not take long to come.
He is now keen to go to Lahore, and Burney says he would try to find where Meher Din’s family was.
**37 years of asylum life for seeking police help **Daily Dawn; January 22, 1985
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KARACHI, Jan 21: Muzaffar Ali Shah, the oldest inmate of Mental Hospital, Lahore, will be freed on Tuesday after 37 years.
The release has been made possible by the Sindh Government undertook to bear his hospital charges (Rs 30,000) at the request of Prisoners Aid Society (Ansar Burney Welfare Trust International) which had also traced him out.
Muzaffar’s nephew, Syed Nisar Hussain, lives in Jehlum but he informed he was unable to secure the custody of his uncle because of financial constraints.
On migration to Pakistan in 1947, Muzaffar had opened a shop at M. A. Jinnah Road. Some time later, his shop was burgled and when he went to file a report, he was arrested under the lunacy act. Records show that he was arrested without any crime And never produced before any court.
The release of Syed Muzaffar Ali Shah became fruitful only because of the efforts of Ansar Burney, Advocate.
The Bureau of Missing and Kidnapped Children/Persons of the Ansar Burney Welfare Trust traced the relatives of Muzaffar Ali Shah.
While talking to newsmen, Muzaffar Shah thanked to Ansar Burney and said that he was of the opinion that he will die and will never go out to take breath in free world, but Mr Ansar Burney make it possible for him.
**Deaf and Dumb lady prisoner saw free world after 55 years: **KARACHI, July 10, 1999
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A 70 years old deaf and dumb lady prisoner who was behind bars since 1936, will see the free world after 55 long years after her release only because of Ansar Burney, Advocates hectic efforts.
She was 15 when she was arrested for upsetting the British Viceroy, who sent her to prison. There she was forgotten and lived for 55 years.
The lady prisoner whose name is not known, as she is deaf and dumb, has been ordered to be released by the Sindh Governor, Justice (retd) Fakhruddin G. Ebrahim, on a petition moved by Mr Ansar Burney, Advocate.
Ordering the release of the unknown lady prisoner, who was behind the bars since 1936 on the orders of the then Viceroy during the British regime, the Governor directed the Deputy Commissioner, Hydrabad to immediately hand over the custody of the ill-fated woman to Ansar Burney Welfare Trust International.
Issuing the order on Mr Ansar Burney’s petition, the Governor observed, “This is indeed a very tragic case. It is unthinkable that we have become so callous to human sufferings”.
The Governor ordered for the immediate release and asked Commissioner to hand over the lady to Ansar Burney Welfare Trust International for her rehabilitation.
There are many more!!
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Pakistan is in international newspapers and tv channels for all the wrong reasons these days. For once that changes and we get some positive publicity. How would you have preferred it that we released him, let him go and not say anything?
Of many many Indian citizens that our intelligence agencies are very likely holding there could be some whose being spy might be questionable, some could be innocent, could we not have released one of them? We chose someone who went out there and admitted he was a spy.
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Great post Irfan. That is the great thing about Ansar Burney. He cares about all innocent and forgotten people, no matter they are Indian or Pakistani or Muslim or something else. May he have many more media events where he puts haar around the necks of released inmates who have served their term. The people who are jealous because of certain ethnic and political reasons will remain jealous.
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Of many many Indian citizens that our intelligence agencies are very likely holding there could be some whose being spy might be questionable, some could be innocent, could we not have released one of them? We chose someone who went out there and admitted he was a spy.
If you know of such people, maybe you should work for their release? You can't release people you don't know of, but don't worry Ansar Burney will help as many people as he can.
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If you know of such people, maybe you should work for their release? You can't release people you don't know of, but don't worry Ansar Burney will help as many people as he can.
Neither I am there in Pakistan nor I am in welfare business, yet. Don't you believe there are many innocent citizens of Pakistan itself rotting in our own jails? There must be some Indian citizens who may not have been spying too but got caught and rotting in jail. I do appreciate what he has done thus far, but I do criticize an act which IMO is wrong.
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Irfan 83
Laughing why MD Tahir has been said as “The Great” you say he files complaints on this issue and that for popularity. You are not the first one saying this. Others too have said the same. But no one including you can convince if he is doing all this for cheap popularity then what is his aim in this? The popularity through cheap means are gained to achieve some goals. For example one minority leaders sometime erects a cage outside his house live in it this is a cheap popularity to be able to be elected again. But M.D. Tahir has never even filed a paper for contesting any seat may it be in any Bar Council or even a Councilor.
He is known having been fined by the courts sometime. The last time I read he was fined Rs. 5000 by the court. It was a matter of larger community interest hence I very much doubt if someone had given him money to file it.
The second thing you say that the writer “Zaide” himself appears to be M.D. Tahir meaning MD Tahir himself in his own praise has written the thread. But it is not convincing. However what is convincing is that you could be a paid tout of Ansar Burni as your own cousin had been working with him. You believe your cousin but you do not believe what I said. I advise you when you read anything before jumping for comments first understand it. If you have a little brain then read again my post and read in it that I was at that time working at Bahrain Airport and was present. Hence it was not my hearsay from others but from my own direct ears.
Many letters about Ansar Burni have appeared in these two weeks. For example one is from Mr. Altaf Khan from USA appearing in daily DAWN. He says in 1992 when he read Burni was helping a women prisoner, he was then in Pakistan. Reading this whatever dollars he had in his pocket sent to Ansar Burni. Then every year from Burni a reminder came to him for more money. Altaf writes later either dollars finished in my pocket or I became wise, I stopped sending anything to him. Irfan83 do you understand this?
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Irfan 83
Laughing why MD Tahir has been said as “The Great” you say he files complaints on this issue and that for popularity. You are not the first one saying this. Others too have said the same. But no one including you can convince if he is doing all this for cheap popularity then what is his aim in this? The popularity through cheap means are gained to achieve some goals. For example one minority leaders sometime erects a cage outside his house live in it this is a cheap popularity to be able to be elected again. But M.D. Tahir has never even filed a paper for contesting any seat may it be in any Bar Council or even a Councilor. He is known having been fined by the courts sometime. The last time I read he was fined Rs. 5000 by the court. It was a matter of larger community interest hence I very much doubt if someone had given him money to file it.
One of the biggest assets of any lawyer is his name! His name is what attracts clients and that is why this guys files cases/petitions for anything and everything in the news!
Read the news regarding his petition against Burney - the guy says he himself tried to get Kashmir Singh released but he failed; and he is against Burney because Burney managed to get Singh release where he didnt!
What kind of logic is that!? And he says that Burney did nothing for the Pakistani prisoners but made special efforts for an Indian - WTF!? Burney has never made efforts for any Pakistani!?
Just read the news of this MD Tahir's petition! you will laugh with disbelief at his argument!
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The second thing you say that the writer “Zaide” himself appears to be M.D. Tahir meaning MD Tahir himself in his own praise has written the thread. But it is not convincing. However what is convincing is that you could be a paid tout of Ansar Burni as your own cousin had been working with him. You believe your cousin but you do not believe what I said. I advise you when you read anything before jumping for comments first understand it. If you have a little brain then read again my post and read in it that I was at that time working at Bahrain Airport and was present. Hence it was not my hearsay from others but from my own direct ears.
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Mate, you expect me to believe a random person on the internet over my own flesh and blood!? LOL!!! And NO! I dont believe a word you say, people like you have nothing better to do than spread lies and propoganda against decent people like Ansar Burney. Get a life!
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Many letters about Ansar Burni have appeared in these two weeks. For example one is from Mr. Altaf Khan from USA appearing in daily DAWN. He says in 1992 when he read Burni was helping a women prisoner, he was then in Pakistan. Reading this whatever dollars he had in his pocket sent to Ansar Burni. Then every year from Burni a reminder came to him for more money. Altaf writes later either dollars finished in my pocket or I became wise, I stopped sending anything to him. Irfan83 do you understand this?
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Yes...this is what charities do! They send appeals. They work on donations! You know, reading your logic (or lack of it), I can now see why you would support someone like MD Tahir - a shameless media whore!
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The name of Mr Ansar Burney is a name of a 'Saint' or an 'Angel' of humanity. Mr. Ansar Burney has saved thousands of underage children as much as two and a half years old to twelve years old (underage child camel jockeys) in Middle Eastern Countries, on slavery for 16 to 17 hours a day, seven days a week and 365 days days a year. He got these thousands of children from slavery and private prisons and sent them back to their respective countries for rehabilitation. Mr Burney also saved dozens of young girls as much as 12 to 16 years old from slavery (prostitution against will) in Middle eastern and european countries and sent them back their home and rehabilitate them in the society. Please please respect such a great man in the greater interest of human rights.