Ansar Abassi criticizes Imran Khan for being liberal..

Imran said in his interview with Najam Sethi that implementation of Article 62/63 should confine to financial crimes. I thought Imran Khan’s comment was very fair that we can not get in to the pandora box of religious morality where one man’s religious ritual is other man’s religious sin. Imran said that he hopes judges will use these articles intelligently. I commented in this forum that he should have declared that such an article should be amended altogether to make it implementable, and the scope of legislation should be restricted to crimes leaving aside sins.. so it can not be misused by anyone. Now read this article where nut cases like Ansar Abassi want to judge people on religious morality. If we accept the ideas of these nut cases.. I think our parliament will be filled with liars and hypocrites only who will pretend-lie about their religious morality. This kind of views are dangerous and should be opposed very strongly. Disgusting article really from a disgusting columnist..

Ansar Abbasi- kis se munsafi chahen- Imran Khan bhee roshan khayali ke safar par - Jang Columns

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Najam Sethi made a comment in his show a few days ago. When asked what impact the new one-month-scrutiny rule will have on the election, he replied “nothing”. And I agree with him. Whether you give the EC 1 month, or 1 year, you can never satisfactorily adjudicate the candidate list, because the debate regarding someones faith and personal life is best left to the public to judge. The EC should only take up corruption issues…stuff that can be proven/disproven by evidence and documentation. This is a common sense issue, and Ansar Abbasi is wrong on this.

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people even know the popular things which court has been failing to decide on because of absence of proof/evidence. Ajmal Pahari is an example of popular perceived criminal but court failed to punish him. this is pakistan, "nothing" is exactly applicable here. our judicial system has already nothing to do with the faith and personla life of candidate.
furthermore, with same analogy, no need to take oath.

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But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. -Thomas Jefferson

Articles 62 and 63 should be amended according to this principle.

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That's a very good point

Article 62/63 should only deal with financial crime and corruption, i.e. whether an individual has financial morality & integrity

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The problem is that as soon as someone labels anything as "Islamic", people will be in favour of it. They will base their opinions on emotion rather than logic.

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yeh hazrat kaisay peechay reh saktay thay…

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Let us destroy one propaganda myth against article 62, 63. All those who are against these clauses say " who will decide who is the Sadiq and ameen?? Who will decide who is the pious Muslim or not ??? Who will be the judge of people’s Imaan ???

All the above arguments are either given by snakes, idiots or fools to deceive the nation.

What does article 62,63 basically mean??

  1. Person should not be against the ideology of Pakistan. Now, what is so difficult about this clause??? Everyone knows who is against the ideology of Pakistan and who stands for an Islamic Pakistan of Quaid and Iqbal. ANP DO NOT accept Pakistan at all. MQM says making of Pakistan was the biggest blunder. So these snakes are clearly known and the entire nation knows that they fail this first clause of the article 62,63.

  2. Second clause says they should be practicing Muslims abstaining from known Haram and major sins – like Alcohol, adultery, womanizing, Riba and should be following at least the 5 fundamental pillers of Islam – Salat, Zakat, Hajj and Saum along with being a Muslim. Now, this is also NOT a secret who does what openly. Only Allah knows the sins done within the boundary walls or behind locked doors but this clause applies to sins or deeds done in Public. What is so difficult to decide who drinks, womanizes or prays or not ??? Those leaders who are living without wives like Zardari and Altaf are not angels that they live without wives and pray all night and fast all day !!! Everyone knows what they do and so does so many of the Ministers, MNA’s and MPA’s.

  3. Third clause is that they should not be financially corrupt where the condition of Ameen is applied. Again, everyone knows who is corrupt and who is honest. When people live beyond their known incomes and they become rich overnight after coming into power, they are corrupt. This is NOT a secret anymore now. Almost the entire country has been bled dry at 13 billion rupees per day corruption and still we don’t know who the corrupt are ??? Astaghfurllah.

So, all the criticism on article 62, 63 is only done by total and complete idiots, corrupt or traitors or womanizers, or those who do not offer salat or pay Zakat or do not fast have not done Hajj because they fear it most!! Now you get it ???

DO WE WANT these almost Kafir like people in the parliament ?? if yes, then go ahead and remove these conditions and then wait for the most severe punishment from Allah. Go ahead and do what you will. Allah is doing what He wills..

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‘Kafir like’ people have been running governments in Europe and North America. “Pious Muslims” have been running governments in Middle East, North Africa and Pakistan. I wonder people in which countries have been punished by Allah.

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I wonder which type of Moderate Islamic satate you people voted for....

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when?

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In a state where a muslim can go to a mazar of his choice for his ritualistic prayers without any fear of getting killed by an other muslim who considers him kafir practicing shirk. Where a muslim can go to an imam bargah of his choice without fear. Where an Ahmadi can go and practice his version of religion without getting attacked by a gang of muslims. We want a modern state where on official level state is not concerned about the theological belief system of individuals. Where state is not declaring which theological interpretation of the scriptures is correct. Where state is not concerned with religious sins of the people.. and confines it's jurisdiction to deal with crimes only with uniform laws for everyone without declaring anyone minority. In the eyes of the state every single citizen should be equal irrespective of his theological orientation.. and if he is not a criminal.. he should have the opportunity to hold any public or private office.

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http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/583928-which-kind-of-pakistan-would-you-guys-go-for.html
see opening post which says moderate (some what in between Islamic and secular).
well, it would be off topic if dig into this.

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ah, okay.

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you are ok, as you voted for Secular state. my curiosity is, other people approve almost every secular idea and still beleive they want a Moderate Islamic State.

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So you think demanding equality for every citizen irrespective of religious affiliation is against moderate Islamic state ?

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you mean,there no difference between moderate Islamic state and secular state?