Another verse which clearly states that jesus is dead. The ayat is VERSE NO 76 SURA MAIDA.
Or Nahin Masih bin Mariyam Magar Aik Rasool. us sey pehlay rasool guzar chukay hein. Us ki MaaN Aik Paak or Sachi Orat thi. Woh donoN maaN beta Khana Khaya Kartay they.
In this verse there are two proofs of Jesus’s death.
Allah says that all the prophets before him have passed away. So there is nothing special in his death as he was also a prophet.
The thing WHICH I WANT TO STRESS IN THIS VERSE IS THE LAST PART OF THE VERSE WHICH SAYS THAT JESUS AND HAZRAT MARIYAM (AS) USED TO EAT FOOD. Please not the use of PAST TENSE in this verse. they USED to eat food. This tells us that they don’t eat food now. “woh khana khaya kartay they.” Gramatically this is ““Mazi Istamrari”” As both of them don’t eat food NOW, that means they are dead.
Somebody might think that Jesus can live without eating food, up in the heavens. Well, this is wrong because other verses of Quran tells us that the Prophets have to eat food to survive. The two verses described below explains this matter.
The verse No 21 of Sura-Furqan says that the prophets before Hazoor (SAW) used to eat food and there was no exception.
The verse NO 9 of SURA-Anbia says that the bodies of all the prophets are made such that they cannot survive without eating neither they can have a life which never ends.
I HOPE THAT THIS MATTER WILL BE CLEAR TO YOU.
NOW ITS YOUR DECISION:: After seeing clear proofs of jesus’s death Do you still want to stay on your old believes???
I am not an enemy of Islam but you people say that I am an enemy, a liar, a kafir etc. So I am just trying to reflect your words. As you people claim that you are Muslims and we are non-muslim so I just want you to prove this claim and nothing else. Please don’t get angry.
Yaar Mirza Loogon
ye tum sub hur waqat apney religion ki justification kyoun byaan kurtay rehtay ho.
Hamien tu koi doubt nehi key martay hi petai ho ghi wo bhi dunday say, tu meray bhai ghussa choro aur petnay kay liey tiyyar ho gao, shabbash.
Aur agr mar nehi khani tu, sharafat say Mirz ko chor kur, Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) ko head to toe, without any logical or inttelectual reasons follow karo, sumjehay kay nehi.
App ka mukhlis doost
Allah Haifz
Meray Mukhlis Dost (as you said), Hum aap ko bila-waja to justification nahin detay, aap log hum sey khud hi mangtay hein. Or agar directly na bhi mangain to indirectly mang laitay hein for e.g. aap kehtay hein key hum kafir hein to phir hamein apni safai mey kuch kehnay ka haq to hona hi chahiyeh.
Humein mar sey na darao. Hazrat Mirza Ghlam Ahmad Sahib, The promised Messiah said "HUMEIN AAG SEY MAT DARAO, AAG HUMARI GHULAM BALKAY GHLAMON KI GHULAM HEY.
Aap bus apni hi fikar karein, Hum apni pitai key baray may khudhi soch lein gay. HUM MUHAMMAD (SAW) KO HEAD TO TOW MANTAY HEIN OR ma’sha’allah AAP SEY ZIYADA MANTAY HEIN.
ANYWAYZ THANKS FOR YOU ADVICE
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BUT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THERE, NO REPLIES FOR THE REAL AYAT.
App ka shukriya meray Mirza bhi
Allah aap ko naik hedayat dey aur succhay Islam per chalnay ki thofiq dey. Ameen
Bus agr aap loog "Dheet" nehi hotay tu abb tuk hedayat mil chani thi, khair khoi bhat nehi abbhi bhi waqat hey, tuaba kur lein aur wapas aa jaieen.
Mirz tu mur ghay aur aap sub ko bhi murwa ghay.
Wasalam
App ka mukhlis doost.
Please stop this behooda bakwas and try to answer my question. It has been more than 10 days since this stuff is posted here and none of you are able to reply just because you dont have any argument against it. PLEASE TRY TO STICK TO THE TOPIC.
Dear Rijal,
Sorry, I can’t help you. I would never like to translate this Bakwaas into English.
Mirza Sahab:1000th time for you,facts about false religion,after reading this please don't bother to answer ,don't have time and don't want to engage in some useless discussion.
What is Qadiyania (also known as Ahmadayya movement of Islam)
Briefly, during the British Imperialism of India, the British encountered resistance from Muslims who wished to retain their chosen way of life without interference. The result was that Muslim clerics declared a state of Holy War against the British from which the British were to suffer greatly.
In the employ of the British was an Indian who held a high opinion of himself. The British cultivated and pandered to his ego and gave him support and facilities which enable him to create a pseudo Islamic movement. His followers were ignorant people and when he proclaimed himself to be a prophet they accepted.
As soon as he had sufficient followers he announced the desire of the British that Holy Wars against them were invalid and must thereby cease and so the British achieved their aim.
Although the Qadiyania claim to be Muslims they are denounced and condemned by Islamic authorities on the bases that the Koran and Prophetic quotations clearly state that there will never be another Prophet or Messenger after Prophet Muhammad.
Qadiyani followers, are for the most part, well mannered, agreeable people in their ethics, and unfortunately in many instances, you will find them out-performing their contemporary Muslim neighbors surviving on these merits alone and not on the truth.
Your allegations regarding british rule are weak and very old and
many people have answered it many times before this. Just in very
few words I will give you answer for this allegation because you have
saud that you don't have time to read it.
1.... He was not appointed by British government. One proof is that
He said that the GOD OF CHRISTIANS IS DEAD. Do how can he be
their supporter. Secondly, christains were a big opponent of Mirza
Sahib for e.g. Alexander Doi, etc.
2....He didn't say naything against the teaching of Jihad. Islam has
given permission to muslims to fight in two situations. 1..When enemy
attacks and you have to defend. 2... When the non-muslim
government makes it hard for muslims to practice islam.
So it is pretty obvious that the Britishers always allowed muslims to
practice islam. If you are not sure then see the statements of people
like Sir Syed, akbar, etc. So if they are not causing any problem then
why fight against them. And he said that if you want to get your
land, then get it by peace. for e.g discussions,talks etc. and Ahmadi
people were always biggest supporters of the formation of pakistan.
Atleast you have agreed that we are good in following islamic values.
Thank you.
AGAIN A REQUEST THAT STICK TO THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD
DONT GO HERE AND THERE.
KHUDA HAFIZ
