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sadzz why would I be uptight about your posts? Good heavens what do you take me for?
Yeah the Quran is filled with beautiful words. What I meant to say before, the post of mine before this one, is that yes I think regular poetry is lovely. But as you can see this issue is more of "Gods words". Not mans words ie. poetry.
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well in that case... if you do think they are God's words.. then why feel bad about finding comfort?
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MQ, donot take the bible as Gods word, for we dont know if it is or not anymore, it can still make sense and well thats that.
Dont think much of it, and thats perhaps the best way
Allah knows best.
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The common consensus and understanding is that whatever we find in Gospel and Torah, if it is validated by Quran, then take it as God's word; if a contradiction then take it as tempered version and if something that is not mentioned in Quran neither is from the narations of ahaadeeth then know that we only believe in Quran to be as a God's word currently present in its totality.
This is as simple as that and there is no need to go scholarly on that.
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Dear Queen,
I don't find that weird.
Unless maybe I am weird...(lol) because I do the same....
but vice-versa...
I notice sayings from the Qu'ran that are comforting.
Some remind of biblical sayings.
I think there are similarities.
We aren't so very different.
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remove the trinity bit aside and there is hardly a difference in the faiths....
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Well remove the Mohammad riding on a chariet thing..
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I didn’t mean that exactly.
What I mean to say is that I think God knows his people and speaks in many different languages to many different cultures. I think God has spoken in many different ways, in the ways that his people are able to understand.
It’s mankinds lack of ability in understanding each others concepts that creates angst and division…Not God.
On the point of trinity… Christians see Jesus as son of God. Muslims see Jesus as a profit of God and reject Jeus being son of God.
But the basic teachings..the values and morals are very similar.
So what if we accept that? O.K. This is your belief, this is mine. Important thing is the basic teachings.
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the status of Jesus (as) is not the issue, but rather the fact that we do not accept anyone equal to God or simillar to Him....
hence we muslims totally reject any ideas that God has a son or a father, or that he wud need to have a son, or wud desire to have one....
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MQ…theres nothing really wierd about it. The Bible was Allah’s word afterall. Abraham was our Imam and leader…as well as the Jews and the Christians. Nothing really wierd about it. Gotta respect their faith too, cause it was from God…just got a bit twisted later on.
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And I can accept that. I do accept that.
That belief is your path to God. Your forefathers, your family, your parents, your mother intoduced you to your religion the way they themselves understand religion and God.
<~~ Same here.
So when my mother taught me of Jesus being the son of God..she was teaching me what she herself was taught…but also with that teaching were morals and values…Same morals and values that all peoples treasure.
Is my thinking that dismissing people because system of belief differs over semantics…,
yet share same moral values..is only just semantics…
(you say tomato..I say tomatoe..)
I don’t believe, I can’t believe that God dismisses or accepts mankind based on words they recite or rituals they practise.
I think God is with all people that love their neighbors as they do their own self.
And God is greater still.
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Maybe if you limit Christianity to the Old Testament, but most of the teachings of the New Testament and Jesus are not in the Quran.
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very very popular....
The Exodus: Chapter 20
*20:1 And God spake all these words, saying,
20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. *
anyone who follows these (commandments), whether jew or christian, is muslim in my eyes....
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Hey I've read Buddhist quotes and found them comforting, and no that doesn't reduce my faith in Islam, the Oneness of Allah and the message of our Prophet PBUH.
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And I went to an Anglican school. I'm embarassed to say I thoroughly enjoyed singing in chapel every morning :o
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Who ever claimed that budhist faith is not Divine in origion, or that Budha(AS) was not a prophet? Islam tells us to the contrary …