Another shoe for Mush.

[Sa1eem]

Re: Another shoe for Mush.

@ravage

so musharraf is sher because he was given a guard of honour after the party he relied on for power was hammered, all four assemblies impeached him out of office and left himlittle option but to scram. anyone can make speeches after its clear that they are past their expiry date, and they can even drum up a smattering of support (see Hosni Mubarak). doesnt mean much.

but lets say all of what you say is great. what is the sher doing in London? he wants to be a politician and be a part of Pakistani politics. If he was running for mayor of London I’d understand rallies here. presumably he wants people to vote for him, they cant do that from London. Why is he there?

its pathetic.

Four assemblies impeached him out of office and left him little option but to scram?
Anyone can make speeches after clear that they are past their expiry date?

Brother, to lie is sin, so why you want to earn sin for which you would gain nothing, not even consolation prize, other than sin?

Well, I know that memory is short amongst Pakistanis, but fact is that, provincial assembly do not impeach President. Even National Assembly does not impeach President. Neither Senate impeach President. Actually a body consisting of Senate, National Assembly and Provincial Assembly combined could only impeach Musharraf with 2/3 majority. But for people wanted impeachment needed time and required numbers (what they never had). Unfortunately, even if there was numbers, situation was that before impeachment, Musharraf could have dissolved the assemblies, so such impeachment was impractical for a President who wanted to stick with power.

Especially when no one can say that how many of PPP members would have abstained impeachment (PPP parliamentary leader Amin Fahim, and many other PPP parliamentarians, were openly against impeachment). Actually only party that would have voted for impeachment was PMLN, who had very few eligible votes for impeachment. Most FATA members were also against impeachment.

Well, Assemblies could have gone to Supreme Court for getting reinstated, still that would have taken time and even after that power of 58-2B was such that President could have again dissolved the assemblies.

So, only practical way to get rid of Musharraf wanting to not give up power was army revolt. I do not think that army would have revolted against Musharraf. That means, there was no real way to make Musharraf give up power.

Anyhow, as for election, even today PMLQ claims that they were made to lose rather than they lost the election. PMLQ also claims that if Musharraf wanted to stay President, then even after administration played role in making them lose election they would have fought for Musharraf. As for PPP, many pro-Musharraf vote fell to them because people were thinking that Musharraf wants PPP + PMLQ government, rather many claim that if BB had not died, government would have been of PPP + PMLQ.

As for votes in election, even though many PMLQ candidates contested election as independents, vote counts were:

Anti-Musharraf votes:

PMLN got around 6.7 million votes (that includes votes of JI, TI, and many other parties = rather all anti-Musharraf votes)

Votes that were pro-Musharraf rule or at least not anti-Musharraf rule:

PPP got around 10.5 million (many were pro-Musharraf votes … even Amin Fahim, leader of PPP, is considered as Pro-Musharraf).

ANP got around 1.1 million votes

JUI got around 0.5 million votes

Total ~ 12.1 million votes

Votes that were pro-Musharraf parties:

PMLQ got around 8.2 million votes.
MQM got around 2.6 million votges
PML (Pagara group) got around 1.5 million votes

Total ~ 12.3 million votes.

So, even though it seems so, you cannot say that people really rejected him.