Another Blast...

A blast again…

In Multan, at least 3 have been killed and 8 including a judge are injured.
God bless them all…

MULTAN: Three people were killed and a judge of special court with seven others injured when a bomb attached to a bicycle exploded near Kutcheri flyover here on Friday.

According to regional police officer, Judge Bashir Ahmed Bhatti was crossing the flyover along with his two guards and a driver when the bomb planted in a bicycle went off killing driver Muhammad Iqbal and two bodyguards Muhammad Ijjaz and Munir on the spot.

Eight people including judge Bashir Ahmed Bhatti sustained injuries in the blast and were shifted to Nashtar Hospital where one injured reported in a critical state.

Police and bomb disposal squad have reached the scene soon after the blast and cordoned off the area.

RPO Multan Mirza Muhammad Ali told Geo News that the blast could be a continuation of Chechawattni cycle blast that occurred few days back.

According to RPO, Bahsir Bhattai had conducted the hearing of a sectarian terrorism case and was due to deliver the verdict.

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Meanwhile,

Secy of interior Kamal Shah says

http://dawn.com/2007/03/02/top12.htm
More terrorist attacks feared
ISLAMABAD, March 1: Federal Interior Secretary Syed Kamal Shah has expressed the fear that terrorist may be planning more suicide attacks in the federal capital.

Talking to journalists following a ceremony held in connection with the Civil Defence Day here on Thursday, Mr Shah said extra security had been put in place in the city to curb subversive activities.�Online

http://dawn.com/2007/03/02/top13.htm
**Explosive-laden car found in Karachi

**An explosive-laden car was found abandoned near Mohatta Palace in Clifton on Thursday.

Police said the car, which had been hijacked at gunpoint on August 10 last year in Gulistan-i-Jauhar, was spotted by a patrol of the Boat Basin police.

The car was brought to the police station and the Anti-car Lifting Cell was informed about its seizure.

Police said the ACLC staff took the car to the Sharea-i-Faisal police station which had registered the case of its hijacking on the complaint of Ahmed Bux Brohi.

They said that during the inspection of the car, police found 20 to 25 kilograms of explosive powder in its boot.

A timer, battery and detonator, which were not connected to the explosive material, were also found in the car, police said.

Police got the sketches of two carjackers prepared with the help of the car owner at the Citizen-Police Liaison Committee.

Police said one of the carjackers was in his late teens and the other in his early 20s.

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If the agencies didn't spend as much time chasing politcial parties and rigging elections, perhaps they could catch these terrorists once in a while

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as long as agencies can be used to keep Q-League (aka Musharraf League), and MQM (aka Musharraf Qaumi Movement) in power, nobody should be bothered about anything. these blasts here and there tell us about the 'nazuk halat' the country is going through. Musharraf is the only man standing between Al-Qaida and the West. screw democracy because everyone else is either extremist or incompetent. so as long as the blame goes to anyone but Musharraf, sub theek hei. if you can't blame anyone, blame intelligence agencies. just keep Musharraf in power. he is the best thing which has ever happened to Pakistan. and he has a disciplined army to take the blame for everything. :biggthumb

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or atleast not drag them out only when pimp slapped by dick cheney.

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fraudia bhai jan, don't take it so personally. none of my comments was aimed at you. the only agency i have been to in my entire life was a natural gas agency. i swear on musharraf's honor. :D

aap kahen to pm ker ke ma'zrat ker lon aap se? :)

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:rotfl: :rotfl:

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true, it is becoming embarrassingly obvious now

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^ Atleast embarassing doesnt seem so bad when you talk about being dictated by the US, whats even more embarassing was how Benazir gave information on the Sikh freedom fighters to India, an enemy nation, being the baigharat that she is. now thats embarassing, even for a PPP jiyala isnt it?

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MQM doesn't need any help to stay in power.

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Yes, all it takes is the announcement of a few mega projects from Musharraf and the PM, support from the CM and Shujaat, and 'positive' reporting from some private media channels, and the the visionary leader's votebank will skyrocket. Make sure he doesn't climb too high. He may hurt himself in the steep fall resulting from the restoration of civilian rule.

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I think you have forgotten how ISI and MI desperately tried to defeat MQM by supporting the Jammat, SSP and other mullah groups (including Haqiqi) but none of that could stop the masses from supporting MQM.

I don't agree with MQM on many issues, but it always makes me proud that my fellow mohajirs were able to stop the mullah threat despite the huge forces that were put on them to embrace jihadism.

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Everyone knows where Iltaf bhai is. He is in power. In alliance with the head of the military, you, as the representative of Iltaf bhai, berate so much. In which ISI guest-house is your enemy Afaq Ahmad?

Why do I hear Farooq Sattar and other MQM leaders unequivocally supporting Musharraf if they, as is obvious from your comments, consider the army as the enemy? A number of times I have read on this very forum that MQM owes its existence to Gen. Zia, the only ‘Mullah-minded’ President-General Pakistan has seen. Everyone seems to have their favorite whipping boys and scapegoats. And the army, thanks to the role played by some power hungry Generals, has become the favorite whipping boy for everyone when things don’t go in their favor. Bhutto, NS, Iltaf, Mullahs … all have benefitted from this army in one way or the other. The moment they go out of power or out of favor, they become democrats. The annoying thing about MQM is their infinite hypocrisy. They will abuse the army despite the fact that their leaders are Musharraf’s best buddies these days. Ironically, the loser in this dirty politics will not be the politicians, but the army itself.

And I absolutely refuse to accept your attempts to portray Iltaf as the sole leader of Muhajirs. People routinely insult Shujaat, Benazir, Nawaz Shareef and other political figures. Nobody brings up ethnicity in such discussions. Please stop bringing up Mohajirs everytime someone criticizes Iltaf. (Btw, In the late 90s, I asked one of my Mohajir friends (from Karachi) about MQM. He told me, ‘Nawaz Shareef ne aa ke dheel de di he, Benazir ne sahi khench ke rakha hua tha’. I didn’t make it up. :)) It must be insulting for millions of Mohajirs when you portray Iltaf Hussain as their leader, just as I’d feel insulted if you said that Shujaat or Zia represent me.

Honestly, how can you remind us of what the army did or did not do day in and day out, but still, you continue to be a staunch supporter of your visionary leader, a man whose criminal record is also well-documented (though recently all documentation must have been lost)? Infinite hypocrisy, isn’t it? To give you the summary of why the army must have felt the need to ‘defeat’ MQM:

http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/yearwise_detail_mqm.htm
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/mqm_factsheet.htm

This is from UNHCR.

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You forgot to mention the security arangements provided to all the Mullahs, masjids, madressahs, foreign agencies, dignitaries, gas fields, pipelines, etc etc etc etc etc...

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Blasts in Multan, who gets abused? Musharraf, Army, agencies, Mqm. Everyone else BUT the real perpatrators of these horrific crimes. Meaning, the religious Fundos and their rabbid supporters.

Such is the state pf GS and many other Pak discussion forums. Why is it that we cannot admit the truth that we have a problem with our religious beliefs or put another way, there are certain elements within our midst who have their heads screwed in the wrong place, yet we cannot label them as barbaric animals for fear of religious reprisals or societal conditioning.

Fact is that blasts in Multan like many other blasts across the country target civil society, a direct threat to the state of Pakistan for its anti-taleban/anti-fundamentalist policy. Its imperative that we condemn the real culprit, finding scapegoats will not help anyone.

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Your anti-Mqm biases have been registered more than once, I guess u do this for a living or its become an obsession, whatever the case maybe its not healthy nor are u adding any value. In your defence, being anti-Mqm was and probably still is one of the most popular positions as propagated by previous govts. Now that the tides have turned, pakistan no longer supports Taliban (officially), moderate enlightenment is the newest fad, state of Pakistan needs new actors or reincarnated from the dead so to speak. This is called political expediency, to condemn its is the most easiest thing to do, we all are guilty of that crime. But, reality and state needs demand change of direction wich requires a change in oeadership, thus the reincarnation of Mqm. Leadership of Mqm like any other political party is also keenly aware of the current political scenario and wishes to re-establish itself as a major political entity and is being promoted by many local and international interests.

Today, Pakistan stands at the cross roads of talibanization which means total annihiltion, both literally and philosophically speaking. Elements that wish to impose their beliefs on the majority will not and have never spared anyone or anything, thus the targeted bombings, suicide attacks, attacks and political blackmail. For civil society to survive it must stand up for itself and be counted, other than that they should keep their peace and be ready for complete blackout.

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Very well said counterpoint. You indeed covered all the points!

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You forgot to mention the security arangements provided to all the Mullahs, masjids, madressahs, foreign agencies, dignitaries, gas fields, pipelines, etc etc etc etc etc...
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The post was to convey the message that I, as a Pakistani, find it insulting when people present Musharraf and his political coalition as the only competent and enlightened people in Pakistan.

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Your anti-Mqm biases have been registered more than once, I guess u do this for a living or its become an obsession, whatever the case maybe its not healthy nor are u adding any value. In your defence, being anti-Mqm was and probably still is one of the most popular positions as propagated by previous govts. Now that the tides have turned, pakistan no longer supports Taliban (officially), moderate enlightenment is the newest fad, state of Pakistan needs new actors or reincarnated from the dead so to speak. This is called political expediency, to condemn its is the most easiest thing to do, we all are guilty of that crime. But, reality and state needs demand change of direction wich requires a change in oeadership, thus the reincarnation of Mqm. Leadership of Mqm like any other political party is also keenly aware of the current political scenario and wishes to re-establish itself as a major political entity and is being promoted by many local and international interests.
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I'll try to keep it short. I have no political, military or sectarian affiliations. As a matter of fact, I'm getting tired of these discussions and will probably leave the place soon. Unlike some other posters my livelihood doesn't depend on politics.

I didn't clearly condemn this blast in this thread, but that doesn't mean I have a soft corner for the people who perpetrate these crimes. 'Deranged animals' is the term I use for such people who knowingly target innocent people. Calling someone animal is perhaps one of the strongest form of condemnation.

'MQM, Army, ISI' Pandora's box was not opened by me. If you read the other posts by some members, you'd see a clear pattern. I'm not anti-MQM, but I'm sorry to say that I have no respect for Iltaf, as I have no respect for other terrorists regardless of their political or secular motives. MQM as a political party has every right to operate freely. I can support many of the ideals they espouse. Nevertheless, MQM is not the only ones who are against terrorism (religious or secular). As a matter of principle, I'm against military controlling politics. I condemn some Generals for what they did in the past, but I'm certainly not anti-army person. It should've been clear to everyone by now.

The reason Iltaf features in every other thread is the poster who has positioned himself as the representative of Iltaf here. At least Imran Khan's representative can keep himself limited to his thread. IMHO, this place shouldn't be allowed to become a political war-zone for representative posters. You may have political leanings, but please don't turn every thread into 'our party' vs 'the opposition'/'the people our party hates' therad.

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Today, Pakistan stands at the cross roads of talibanization which means total annihiltion, both literally and philosophically speaking. Elements that wish to impose their beliefs on the majority will not and have never spared anyone or anything, thus the targeted bombings, suicide attacks, attacks and political blackmail. For civil society to survive it must stand up for itself and be counted, other than that they should keep their peace and be ready for complete blackout.
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I agree.

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Appreciated, thanks

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why do u think I took anything personally. no worries mon. relax and have a jam sandwiiiiich.

as far as mazrat, please send nazrana e aqeedat via pay pal for process you maazrat.

dua goh

Pir Fraudia