Another american propaganda or what?

Dude, instead of saying i should be his lawyer, support your arguement, i have proof for my arguement and yet you’re just saying stuff out and to me you’re brain is full of doubts cause ur words tell that since u cant even support your arguement!

Now That picture i posted was is indicating a pic from the fake video of pentagon and right beside is the real photo of Osama, if you still cant tell the difference, then you problems and must find a solution to solve it. Any fool with eyes can tell the difference. Think about it! Osama is gonna leave a tape where he is saying he was responsible for 9/11 attacks so the world can know? What you’re saying doesn’t make sense so please get your facts straight and it’ll make it less embarrasing for you!

Please dont get offended by any of this.

BTW, are you a muslim?

khuda hafiz

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so whats the conclusion dudes ???

anyways Innocent ppl are not suppose to be killed from any Side..

Sadly indeed, Innocent ppl were killed. either it was from OBL and party, or Pentagon itself..

Same goes for Palestenian Bombers..

Muslims can see that, and criticise that..
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But Why we do not criticse west for its biased killing of Muslims all over the world..

Bombing in Israel and 11 sept , are just ver rare incidents that Muslims are involved.

Whereas Innocent Muslims are killed allover the world , and no body even criticise it..

Can i say, the Blood of Muslims has frozen.

Think…
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Dont think “you can” know “you can”
.::. ﷲ ﻼﺃ ﷲﺃ ﻶ .::.

What you have said makes sense and are facts BUT right now i am talking about the world blaming we muslims for 9/11 attacks and yet we ourselves blame osama! God, that’s sick! There were 4000 jews missing on 9/11.. and was that a coincidence? I dont think so neither do you i bet.

2000-5000 muslims died in India and look at the corrupted Arab world still friends with India yet palestine is an arab country and Thousands of muslims are dieing there but still our arab countries are friends with Israel, now this is what you call stupidity!

Egypt cut their ties off with israel and Iraq has said that there will be no oil for israel for a month. That still helps but i mean look at saudi arabia and qatar and them. They can do something to help but our governments are corrupted since money is what they get and they cant get enough of it!

Tell me where muslims aren’t being humiliated? In India/Kashmir/Russia/Palestine/Afghanistan and I bet some more places. And USA the biggest terrorist is supporting that and we still support the US? Thats stupidity!

This thread I am only talking about the OBL’s guilt. There isn’t any solid proof that he was behind and pentagon even released the videotape which was proven it was fake and listen up guys, THINK, How is it possible that bin laden would say he did the 9/11 attacks front of a videocamera and yet he would leave the tape behind so the world can see it? Plus, CNN said that the tape’s print is really bad but couldn’t OBL afford a better videocamera? I mean he is a millionar!

And you’re telling me to think? Bhai, First think before you say something and once you have done that and think which thread
am i talking about this? This is a thread about the OBL’s guilt and american propaganda!

Please dont offended by any of this.

khuda hafiz

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weird... I post a message and the message appears twice.. lol

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-u 4 real, the living queen is 1 of the biggest freemason followers-a knight of solomon if u will


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Originally posted by ukhalil11:
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PERFECTLY SAID! But not 400 jews people were absent on 9/11, it was 4000 jews people missing...

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Come on, Ukhalil! Where did you hear this? It is not true--there is no way anyone could know this. American does not keep track of people's religions and there is no way this could be known. You WANT to believe there is a conspiracy, bhai! You really think the Jews are that smart??

It is possible OBL is a just guilty by association. But what he stands for is not true Islam--he should not associate with those who pervert Islam for political gain. And if Alqaeda was not involved, why have the attacks stopped since America blew them up?

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Originally posted by Tiddah:
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It is possible OBL is a just guilty by association. **
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by this I mean that he was not the one who flew the planes. And that picture of him is not proof at all. Have you even seen the video? IT IS HIM!

Plus, CNN said that the tape's print is really bad but couldn't OBL afford a better videocamera? I mean he is a millionar!

He is a millionaire living in a cave, bhai.

[quote]
Originally posted by ukhalil11:
** What you have said makes sense and are facts BUT right now i am talking about the world blaming we muslims for 9/11 attacks and yet we ourselves blame osama! God, that's sick! There were 4000 jews missing on 9/11.. and was that a coincidence? I dont think so neither do you i bet.

2000-5000 muslims died in India and look at the corrupted Arab world still friends with India yet palestine is an arab country and Thousands of muslims are dieing there but still our arab countries are friends with Israel, now this is what you call stupidity!

Egypt cut their ties off with israel and Iraq has said that there will be no oil for israel for a month. That still helps but i mean look at saudi arabia and qatar and them. They can do something to help but our governments are corrupted since money is what they get and they cant get enough of it!

Tell me where muslims aren't being humiliated? In India/Kashmir/Russia/Palestine/Afghanistan and I bet some more places. And USA the biggest terrorist is supporting that and we still support the US? Thats stupidity!

This thread I am only talking about the OBL's guilt. There isn't any solid proof that he was behind and pentagon even released the videotape which was proven it was fake and listen up guys, THINK, How is it possible that bin laden would say he did the 9/11 attacks front of a videocamera and yet he would leave the tape behind so the world can see it? Plus, CNN said that the tape's print is really bad but couldn't OBL afford a better videocamera? I mean he is a millionar!

And you're telling me to think? Bhai, First think before you say something and once you have done that and think which thread
am i talking about this? This is a thread about the OBL's guilt and american propaganda!

Please dont offended by any of this.

khuda hafiz

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dear khalil..

the points u just made are quite rite..
but as we know, there are diffrent idealogies of Muslims, Muslims are distrbuted over the core issues...

Until Muslims are united, nothing cannot be done..


Dont think "you can" know "you can"
.::. ﷲ ﻼﺃ ﷲﺃ ﻶ .::.

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Originally posted by ajee:
**Even if God peeks down from heavens and yell that Osama was behind the attacks, there still will be people who would disagree.

I want to know what kind of proff would sufice? Does Osama have to go to each & everyone's house & confess that he was in on it?**
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Very well put. Yes even if both of those events took place, there would still be people that way think he was innocent.

I don't know 100% that he did it, but even if he didn't he sure seems very pleased about the whole thing. I am 99% convinced he was directly involved or he inspired the event. He may never have to pay the cost of this crime on this Earth, but if he did do it, I believe that he will one day answer to a much higher court.

Of course, it is like I can't prove that my 5 year old grandson ate the missing cake, but the frosting all over his face has to make me wonder.

Brenda


Hope for the best, prepare for the worst!!!

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Originally posted by Tiddah:
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He is a millionaire living in a cave, bhai.**
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Your above statement makes sense but that statement cannot support your arguement.

He is a man living in caves who planned out such a big attack? A man living in a cave would be lucky to get his food 3 times a day but you're telling me that a man who lives in a cave planned out the attack and told the hijackers to do this? LOL!

Man, what proof do you need? Look at that picture i posted, cant you tell the difference bhai? Its plain common sense and any fool with eyes can tell the difference! To me what it seems that you have been watching and believing the american media/propaganda for years. Your words prove that to me. You're brainwashed by CNN/BBC(Who knows there are more). So like flammez said, if we cant unite and believe the truth, things that are currently going on with muslims will continue!

May all show us all the right! AAmin

Please dont offended by anything I said. I am just telling the facts.

khuda hafiz

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Originally posted by Tiddah:
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He is a millionaire living in a cave, bhai.**
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Your above statement makes sense but that statement cannot support your arguement.

He is a man living in caves who planned out such a big attack? A man living in a cave would be lucky to get his food 3 times a day but you're telling me that a man who lives in a cave planned out the attack and told the hijackers to do this? LOL!

Man, what proof do you need? Look at that picture i posted, cant you tell the difference bhai? Its plain common sense and any fool with eyes can tell the difference! To me what it seems that you have been watching and believing the american media/propaganda for years. Your words prove that to me. You're brainwashed by CNN/BBC(Who knows there are more). So like flammez said, if we cant unite and believe the truth, things that are currently going on with muslims will continue!

May all show us all the right! AAmin

Please dont offended by anything I said. I am just telling the facts.

khuda hafiz

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Originally posted by FlameZz:
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dear khalil..

the points u just made are quite rite..
but as we know, there are diffrent idealogies of Muslims, Muslims are distrbuted over the core issues...

Until Muslims are united, nothing cannot be done..

**
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The above statement perfectly makes sense and by the grace of allah, that will happen!

Those pictures mean nothing to me, bhai jan. I have a whole video to look at and it is him. I think you are brainwashed by anger and denial.

Where did you get that picture,anyway? To me it is its own form of propaganda.

I just give you the facts. If you are convinced of your side without a proper discussion, then I am done here.

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Bhai, I dont get it. How could you still support the american propaganda. The video was fake and its pretty obvious? Can’t you see the difference between his real photo and the photo from the fake video released by pentagon?

Download this video! http://members.optushome.com.au/okandil/bush.asf

Someone made it in 2 hours and he was some kid and yet this video was made by America who invented computers!

And go here http://www.inin.net/7binladentape

for more proof that bin laden is fake 100%. So far you’re the first guy who is a muslim and says the video was real. Good god, that’s so funny! LOL …

I have said this many time and will say it again. Please answer to this question

Are you telling me that Bin laden held the responsibility for 9/11 attacks front of a tape? If yes, do you think he would leave the tape behind so the world can see?

Are you telling me a guy who lives in caves where he is lucky to get his 3 time food planned this whole attack? In the tape it said that bin laden knew about the attacks on September 6, 2001. Now how can a guy who is planning such a huge attack only know about the attack 5 says before?

Are you telling me that the hijackers didn’t know what there job was until the last minute? LOL!!!

Pretty funny a guy who lives in caves and is able to plan a attack this huge yet he only knew the attacks 5 days before it. LOL! THATS FUNNY.. If america wants the world to fool it, atleast make a good plot so we people cant tell if it’s fake or not.

Now an American guy wrote an article saying Israel/CIA was responsible for the attacks. Guess you dont believe me, well go here and read it when you got time.
http://www.davidduke.com/writings/howisraeliterror.shtml

Please bhai, you’re totally brainwashed. I actually use to trust the american propaganda and later found out its all lies. I hope you realize that soon enough. May allah show you the right path!

khuda hafiz

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weird... wuts going on? I post a message once and appears many times.. weird..

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The second video was clear enough. All computer graphics and opengl experts would know that a computer rendered video of this clarity can never be generated. So this video was not fake. When it comes to programming in opengl etc its really very difficult to make life like humans. You can always tell if its fake or not. So those of you who say its a computer generated video, you are wrong.

Why do some ppl find it so hard to believe that hes a terrorist? He says so himself, and last week one of his close associates declared that they had planned the sept 11th attacks.

I hope his 53rd wife assasinates him if hes not dead already. Cowards like him deserve such an ending.

No, I totally disagree with you. First of all, you’re talking about making human-like graphics. That sure is hard to make but this is America we are talking about here. What I have heard is that they have used osama and his friends real pictures and made them say stuff in arabic. Trust me man.

Now what your words are telling me that Osama first of all denied the 9/11 attacks and then he purposely made a video saying he was responsible for the attacks? Now tell me this, why would he do that? If he was responsible, he would’ve admitted it in the first tape. Why would he admit it later on? Does it matter to him if he admits or not? I dont think so!

Also, answer this, why would 4000 jews be missing on 9/11? Is this a coincidence? IF thats what you think, your knowledge is at a very low level.

6 jews people were caught making the video of world trade center on 9/11. The FBI did arrested them but later released them. Now what do you have to say about that?

This is all a propaganda planned out by israel and some american officials.

People like you easily get fooled by the american media and thats what they want. Smart people know what’s wrong and right. If you would be smart, then you would know who is responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

Now here is a article written by an AMERICAN OFFICIAL saying israel was responsible for the attacks and CIA was involved too. Read it when you have time and make sure you understand it fully. http://www.davidduke.com/writings/howisraeliterror.shtml

The price of supporting Israel was this. The attacks. So bhai, dont get fooled by the american propaganda. They lie too much and want people like you to get fooled easily. I was once like you believing on the american propaganda, later I Relaized It’s all propaganda. I hope soon enough similar thing happens to you.

May allah show you the right path!

Please do not get offended by anything I said.

Khuda hafiz

THIS IS SO DAMN WEIRD.

PLEASE MODERATORS DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.

I post a message once and appears twice or 3 times. What's going on? Please help me out here!

Thanks

khuda hafiz

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