Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
One thing is ascertained that Taliban terrorism was present in Pakistan before 2003. So there Imran is dead wrong. Do you think that Pakistan should have supported people who were conducting sectarian terrorist activities inside Pakistan to such a large scale?
You have yet to prove the first point.:)
With regards to the second offcourse Pakistan should not support anyone but itself and if that means to save Pakistani lives we need to sit and talk to Taleban terrorists or even Satan himself why the hell not? Every nation must do what is best to serve it's interests and importantly the interests of it's people.... So long as it does everything in a fair and honourable manner there is no reason to suggest anything is at all wrong with it.
Even if talking to the Taleban and engaging them is tantamount to talking to kaffirs so what? We all talk to Kaffirs most of the time anyway so thats hardly a problem is it :)
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
I don't know where the hell you guys are living, but after the Judiciary/Civil Society revolution for restoring judges - religious fanaticism is losing momentum. The people of Pakistan choose democracy over whatever the hell system talibanic mence try to create in Swat.. and that is anathema to all the religious fanatics.
As far Imran Khan statements concerned, he is a kid in politics.
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
btw there's no mature politician in pakistan, by being in politics for 20-30 yrs doesnt guarantee one to be mature enough
Mature means they understand the mindset of people of Pakistan which unfortunately majority of it still vote on caste. Probably this is changing in major cities, that's why i will not be surprised if TI secure seats from Lahore/Faisalabad and give some tough time to PML-N.
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
Oh Imi bhai
he just shake deveil hands or hand of devils:D: he and Altaf both dreaming about a changing..
oh yeah am also missing CP his bold stand about Zaliman and never see him again after twice banned, world around you changing Khoji:D:
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
Here is something more. May be said it before as well.
Taliban were not committing terrorist attacks against Pakistani people in general before 2003. And the reason is that Pakistan was the supporter of those fasaadis. They started attacking Pakistan not because America came to Afghanistan, rather they did it because Pakistan had stopped supporting them.
As their fellow kharijis of yester years before them used to say, anyone who agrees with them can live, but anyone disagreeing deserves to die. That's the mentality.
And this mentality means that they would have attacked people disagreeing with them in Pakistan sooner or later anyway, regardless of whether Pakistan had kept their support or not. They had not attacked Pakistan on that scale before 2003 only because they were busy consolidating their base in Afghanistan. But after Afgh it would have been Pakistan's number in their struggle for global khilafat.
Unfortunately, Imran Taliban can not see all that because of his racist haughty attitude. He still thinks that Taliban means a few thousand fighters in FATA. He can not understand that Taliban is actually a mentality, and this mentality exists among millions of Pakistanis. For example, how many times have you seen someone on this forum trying to justify horrific criminal acts of Taliban one way or another?!
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
I didn't read your post beyond this line. What first point do I need to prove? That there was no Talibanic terrorism before 2003?
No that Imran Khan actually said those things... I have looked up some of his interviews and while he says the Taleban have been attacking Pakistan and that the situation escalated since 2003 he has not said that there was no terrorism either before or after any given date... he was reffering to the spate of bomb attacks that the TTP made at direct strategic targets in Pakistan since 2003. Your technically misquoting him unless you can provide evidence to the contrary. :)
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan’s claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
What should I elaborate on? Taliban’s creation by ISI is a well known fact.
TTP and Taliban may have different leaderships but they have similar ideology, and similar fanatic mentality.
I don’t want to continue with this discussion because it will move me away from what Imran thinks about Taliban. This thread is about Imran and his ideological brothers Taliban. It is not about what you, others and I think are right or wrong.
Cricketer-turned-politician Imran Khan believes Pakistan should pull out of the US-led war against the Taliban “to save itself” and **tell Washington that it won’t use arms any longer against them.
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Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
The change Imran is dreaming of could be a security threat to Pakistan.
The fact remains that despite waging war on the Taliban for many years, there has been no reduction in terrorist attacks and all we have achieved is more death and destruction of innocent lives while providing the Taliban more fodder for indoctrination and brainwashing.
However, as an MQM supporter I can see why you prefer that strategy.
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
The fact remains that despite waging war on the Taliban for many years, there has been no reduction in terrorist attacks
There has been considerable decrease in Talibanic attacks this year.
This war can not be won by weapons alone. Other efforts need to be taken as well.
The solution is not to stop the war against fasadi criminals.
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MQM has nothing to do with it. It's about khariji terrorism and the best way to deal with it. But I can understand Imran's insistence on not to wage war against the worst of Pakistan's enemies. This is based on his haughty racism.
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Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
Perhaps this was the day when IK decided to go back to Establishment once again.
Even after this disgrace in PU, the idiot continues to support Jamaat and Talibanic mentality.
He is so fond of Taliban, but if he goes there then he might end up as dead meat, just like those two Taliban godfathers.
Can you provide an example of Imran Khan’s racism?