An ode to Shaukat Aziz

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This is much needed. Our Afghanistan border is a source of problems for more than we need.

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I would make one comment though. I do not expect Afghani's to be buying it for more than Pakistanis. So who is buying it frmo Afghanistan? Americans, Indians who else?

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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601091&sid=apwFijxdJ_GM&refer=india

Jan. 14 (Bloomberg) – Pakistan sent troops to guard flour mills to prevent smuggling to Afghanistan and illegal hoarding as the government said there is enough wheat to avoid a shortage in the country of 164 million people.

The newly created Federal Food Committee will help provincial governments secure wheat supplies and improve transportation within Pakistan and imports from abroad, the official Associated Press of Pakistan cited Lieutenant General Farooq Ahmed Khan, the body’s chairman, as saying yesterday. Pakistan’s wheat stock currently is more than 1.8 million metric tons, he added.

Paramilitary forces in Baluchistan will ``ensure no flour is being smuggled across the border’’ with Afghanistan, APP cited Major General Saleem Nawaz, inspector-general of the Frontier Corps in the province, as saying yesterday. As many as 52 trucks were stopped while trying to smuggle flour in recent days, he said.

Food shortages and rising prices in Pakistan are increasing pressure on President Pervez Musharraf’s government, which is trying to control civil unrest and a surge in terrorist attacks. Wheat prices in the world’s sixth-largest consumer of the grain climbed 23 percent in a 15-day period until Jan 8.

The Baluchistan Frontier Corps is guarding 55 mills and 44 storage depots, Nawaz said.

Long queues of people were seen outside sale points in severe cold in various parts of the province'' and the city of Quetta, Nawaz said. Security forces will ensure relief and supervise flour sales,‘’ he added.

Punjab Province

As many as 349 mills and 77 depots are being guarded in Punjab province, APP cited Brigadier Qaisar Khan Tareen, deputy director-general of the Pakistan Rangers, as saying in the city of Lahore yesterday.

The Rangers will help the provincial authorities undertake raids on any groups to prevent smuggling, he said, adding that all resources, including helicopters, will be used.

Riots that erupted in Pakistani cities after former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto was assassinated Dec. 27 cut supplies of wheat resulting in increased prices. An 80-kilogram wheat flour bag sold for a record of 2,000 rupees ($32) after riots cut supply, Fareed Qureshi, chairman of the Karachi Retail Market Association, said Jan. 8.

Flour, in short-supply in the commercial capital, Karachi, sells for as much as 40 rupees a kilogram, double the price from last month. Thousands of people have been queuing outside subsidized state-run grocery stores across the country to buy wheat flour, according to images shown by the Pakistani media.

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^frankly speaking It took them 15 days to realize how to deal with the problem. Grain price climb 23 percent!!! Why such late re-action on a well before known action?!

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You are a racist, anyone, be it Punjabi, Pathan, Sindhi, or anyone from the north or someone not from your own ethnicity or praising your party is subjected to your racist agenda.

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You've to realize the situation in its entire context here. What’s being conveniently ignored in that other post was Mush/Shauky’s gross mismanagement & poor planning. 2007 Wheat yield was enough to meet local demand adequately. Two factors led to current situation: Shaukat & his stooges in Agriculture ministry allowed export of wheat; second - political connections of hoarders & other big wigs didn’t let Mush/Shauky to put any kinds of strict checks against the hoarding which was going on since the Summer of 2007.

Its funny how people here attempt to deflect Mush's failures to some vague/shadowy factors such as market price differences, smuggling, obsolete distribution system, kundas or global war on terror what not trying to absolve him of all his failures and yet would jump up & down charging previous governments & individuals for same exact reasons as the cause of their failures.

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Atleast it was gone. Can you say the same for now i.e. Good uncle mushs regime?
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I don't what happened to my post but anyway, the load shedding was still there when bb was in power. Some of the companies got their contracts cancelled when gunja came to power but yeah, thermal rates are very high and you have to blame everyone else before Mushy.

Seriously, I don't know if we ever will solve the microeconomic situation in Pakistan! The country has way too many people and the birth rate is still very high. I wonder why our mullahs don't work on family planning like they did in bangladesh?

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Hoarders are cashing on the fact that there is anger against army by fasadi sympathizers and PPP walas and they can easily make up stories with sympathy across Pakistan if army comes on them too hard. In fact, after 3rd March '07, the country has gone to becoming a joke since the lawyers decided to politicize a purely legal matter. I wonder where these lawyers were when gunja kicked sajjad ali shah from court through illegal ethnic maneuvers and also the court was stormed.

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Oh, yes, everyone is responsible for what is going in Pakistan except the govt. Umm, but wait, isn't govt job to implement the laws? If not, whats the point of govt?

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The lawyers are part of the mess. They should get the blame as well since they decided to politicized a legal case in SJC and instability was created. Government shares the blame but so does everyone else. You can't clap with one hand.

I used to like this CJ guy but his approval of the politicization of the case in SJC has left me hopeless about Pakistan. At least Sajjad ali Shah didn't come out and politicize his dismissal when we all know how Nawaz Sharif used punjabiyat in the supreme court back then!

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I was a bit in awe that so much could be smuggled that would create such a crisis and smuggled to what end. However as you suggest, hoarders were waiting for the opportune moment and with the ease in export control they have found a gold mine by selling the wheat in offshore markets other than Pakistan.

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Market prices go up and down on a regular basis. It would have taken one week of price rises before the government concluded that this was anything more than bad fluctuation, then one more week of government efforts to identify the causes of the problem and fix it in other means, and finally at least one day to decide that the problem could be fixed by throwing soldiers at it.

Anyway, I’m surprised that you’re criticising the government for taking so long before sending soldiers in. I thought people like you thought that throwing soldiers at civil government problems was a Bad Thing.

Incidentally, to give an idea of why it makes more sense to smuggle flour to Afghanistan than selling it to Pakistanis, consider this. As per the article I posted, flour in Pakistan hit a high point of $32 for 80kg - that is $38.4 per 100kg.

In Afghanistan, according to the BBC, flour costs $67 per 100kg. That’s nearly twice as much.

By the way, Afghanistan is now begging the Internation community to pay for its flour consumption since its people are starving now.

Not just that, but flour costs EVEN MORE in Tajikistan than in Afghanistan. In other words, if you owned a flour mill in Pakistan, your best interests lie in exporting it, even illegally, rather than sell it at your local market.

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shaukat aziz not only ran Pakistan, but also afghanistan, bangladesh, as well it seems.

and probably responsible for crop failures in northern hemisphere.

the issues with hoarding and smuggling are a whole diff story.

People across South Asia are struggling to cope with a severe shortage of affordable wheat and rice.
There have been queues outside Pakistani shops in towns around the country, and flour prices have shot up.

Wheat flour is a staple foodstuff in Pakistan, where rotis or unleavened bread are eaten with almost every meal.

Last week Afghanistan appealed for foreign help to combat a wheat shortage while Bangladesh recently warned it faced a crisis over rice supplies.

Global wheat prices are at record highs. Problems have been compounded by crop failures in the northern hemisphere and an increase in demand from developing countries.

Afghan Commerce Minister Mohammad Amin Farhang said wheat shortages could lead to serious problems during the winter.

His call came amid rising discontent inside Afghanistan at the spiralling cost of wheat and other basic foods

Afghanistan does not grow enough wheat to feed all its people and is partially dependent on imports.

On Thursday, the chief of the Bangladesh army, Gen Moeen U Ahmed, said that he was “very concerned” about the problem of rice supplies which he said must be redressed immediately.

Many people in the country have been hit hard by spiralling food prices, which in some cases have doubled over the last year, mostly because of damage caused by heavy monsoon rain.

A delegation from Bangladesh is now in India to discuss importing rice to offset the shortages.

Increase in demand

Pakistan’s government says it has no lack of wheat supplies and blames distribution problems and hoarders, as well as smuggling by suppliers.

Officials say the price is fixed in consultation with representatives of flour mill owners.

The BBC 's M Ilyas Khan in Karachi says that the Pakistani government buys wheat in bulk at the time of harvesting, and then releases stocks to flour mills according to a pre-determined quota.

It now says it has increased the quota allocated to the mills, warning them of penalties if they are found selling flour at prices higher than fixed by the government

Pakistanis consume an estimated 22m tonnes of wheat annually, and last season’s yield was more than 23m tonnes.

Officials accuse suppliers in Punjab, the breadbasket of Pakistan, of smuggling wheat intended for domestic use to Afghanistan and Central Asia to take advantage of price differences.

Flour ran short in Pakistan when many areas saw rioting after the assassination of opposition leader Benazir Bhutto in late December.

With the security situation in Pakistan now calmer, correspondents say it is not clear why apparent problems in distributing flour are persisting.

One reason cited is frequent power cuts which have led to flour mills stopping work.

“It’s not fair,” one retired worker, Younis, told Reuters news agency. “We are very angry.”

He said he had waited for hours outside a government store in the southern city of Karachi, hoping to buy flour - but to no avail. Dozens of others went empty-handed, Reuters reported.

Initially, flour shortages pushed up the price on the open market in Pakistan to as much as 60 rupees (about $1) per kilogram in some areas. The average day labourer earns only 100 rupees a day.

The state-run Utility Stores Corporation has been selling flour at 18 rupees per kilogram, but it does not have enough outlets to serve the population of 160 million.

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Just 0.5 million out of a 22 million ton harvest was exported; you can’t honestly expect that to be the cause of this crisis.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\01\05\story_5-1-2007_pg5_6

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nope, I don’t. But if you read my earlier post, I listed a few other factors as well including gross mismanagement and miscalculations as well as lack of any checks by the government on hoarding - collectively has led to this worsening situation.

Cabinet split over wheat crackdown

By Mubarak Zeb Khan

ISLAMABAD, Sept 22: Federal ministers are divided over a proposal to crack down on individuals hoarding wheat as they feel that action against “some influential people” could create problems for the ruling party in the general election.

According to a report submitted by intelligence agencies a few weeks ago, a number of “major players” are stockpiling wheat. But the government is hesitant to attach “top priority” to the scandal because of the election factor.

**Sources told Dawn on Saturday a Karachi-based minister stunned the last meeting of the cabinet’s Economic Coordination Committee (ECC), headed by Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz, after he alleged that a textile mill owner had stockpiled 100,000 tons of wheat.

According to the minister, businessmen — owners of textile mills and petrol stations included — having an adequate storage capacity were involved in hoarding the commodity.

The revelation prompted another minister, from Punjab, to advise the government to avoid launching such an operation ‘for the time being’. He said it might ‘upset influential people’, creating ‘problems’ for the government in an election season.**

It has been learnt that black market operators have now decided to make windfall profits by hoarding non-perishable farm produce, eg wheat, rice and sugar, because the stock and real estate markets had failed to yield high returns.

The average price of locally-produced wheat was 200 dollars per ton against the landed cost of the imported variety, which amounted to $415 a ton in September, leaving a profit margin of more than 50 per cent to the hoarders.

According to the sources, the difference between international and domestic prices had compelled profiteers to locally purchase the wheat. If the commodity was not smuggled to neighbouring countries, it could yield a hefty profit, they said.

The sources said that the issue had been mishandled by the government’s economic wizards and this was one of the reasons for the spike in the price of wheat flour.

Initially, the ministry of agriculture had come up with a proposal to export wheat to give a better price to farmers, benefiting only big farmers in Punjab, who have considerable influence in the government, bureaucracy and cabinet.

The drive to export wheat was suspended in May after it was persistently resisted by millers and the Singh government but by then, it had already created distortion in the market.

**According to a letter written by Agriculture Development Commissioner Nadir Box Bloch to the Public Accounts Committee on May 25, wheat production was projected at 23.52 million tons. The estimate is now being disputed after a sharp increase in the commodity price.

Sources said that in total contradiction of facts, the agriculture ministry had misinformed the president, before the permission to export wheat, that the country had achieved an unprecedented production of 25 million tons.**

The sources cited export of wheat and flour to Afghanistan as one of the reasons for the recent rise in the price of the commodity. There are also reports that wheat is being shipped to Central Asian countries via Afghanistan.

According to sources, wheat smuggling to India, too, could not be ruled out because the price in the Indian market was almost twice that in Pakistan.

http://www.dawn.com/2007/09/23/top4.htm

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Spock yaar why don't you understand.

All that is happeneing today is bcoz Shaukat Aziz brought unprecedented economic growth and properity.

Atta is not available, bcoz people have lot of money and have started eating too much.

There is load shedding coz poeple have lots of electrnic equipment and mobile phones. There are millions of mobile phones being charged as we speak, this causes power shortage. Plus think of all the laptops, electric shavors, PDA's and pocket PC's being charged.

Then this Gas thing, people previously were used to bathing with cold water. Now they are using up all the gas for heating water. Plus all rickshaws have turned to CNG so its expected to have Gas shortage.

The water shortage is caused by too many cars. Now all the water is being used up to wash cars.

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You think its because people are eating like pigs?

I don't get it - why can't everyone get on the same page about why this is happening? Why 10 different stories?

I'm hearing about these hoarders. Quite honestly, my economics is VERY weak and always has been. So, why were they hoarding in plain layman's terms? I understand they might be rich and influential, but this atta problem keeps going, they're just going to lose more people to poverty, terrorism, and general jahaaliyat behavior of burning tires in the middle of some important road in Karachi.

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Thanks, I’m getting the concept now.

This is crazy. No wonder I open up this morning to an article in NY Times about Afghani weddings and how extravagant they are, with little protest over recent government actions to curb the extravagant costs (I mean if the Taliban did that, then its extremism). I’m sure the international community doesn’t give a rat’s behind about how many people die of starvation in any aforemenioned countries due to a attha problem.

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Sex is the only entertainment they allow themselves. Condoms just ruin the feel.

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Oh plz! They have humiliated every single person regardsless of her/his status and this will make them then worry about their image?! Come on!