Re: An invitation I don't quite know if I should turn down...
The fact that you wear a hijab (ie. no one can miss that fact that you're Muslim) is a HUGE plus in my opinion....b/c it shows every non-Muslim (gay or straight) attending that event that despite what they see/hear on the news....Muslims are willing to accept others who don't follow the same beliefs and take part in celebrating an occassion that means a lot to them.
Re: An invitation I don't quite know if I should turn down...
A very interesting situation I must say. One part of me says go so you can celebrate a nice person's happy moment. The other part of me is incomfortable being amidst the many other gays who may be guests, and seeing the bride and groom kiss and all...
I don't think you need to represent Islam there. No need to work hard to establish that we are open minded about this because in all honestly, I'm not. I don't hate homosexuals but I still will not rally for them. So keeping that aspect out, I would go just because he's your husband's colleague and you'd like to wish them well...but I'd go during dinner so I wouldn't have to necessarily witness the formal ceremony.
Re: An invitation I don't quite know if I should turn down...
I didn't read all the comments but I've grappled with similar issues in the past. Some of my good friends are gay because they're genuinely nice people and they've always been more than supportive about me praying / not wanting to go to bars and clubs and have been extremelyyyy accepting and openminded. At the end of the day, what they do is between them and God. They're choices regarding sexual orientation don't effect me personally; if I was to discriminate against them then I would also have to stop being friends with anyone that commits Zinna , etc.
I don't attend muslim mixed marriages because as a muslim, that person KNOWS what they're doing is wrong and is outside the realm of Islam. If a Muslim gay guy was having a wedding, then no, I wouldn't attend. But I don't see the problem with this. If it makes you uncomfortable then go towards the end/stay for a little while, but I don't think you should blow it off completely.
Re: An invitation I don't quite know if I should turn down...
You can go if you want for fun purposes but do not think that you're doing Islam or Muslims any sort of favour (as suggested by few members here).
I never said I was there to represent Islam/Muslims Hareem nor did he invite me to make some sort of a statement. It's just a friend inviting another for a wedding, despite a controversial one he knows I don't carry any kind of resentment towards what his choices are.
Having said that though, I think all Muslims represent Islam in some shape or form. It's sometimes obvious in the way we carry ourselves, our clothing, daily activities etc., so whether we like it or not, it becomes incumbent upon us to act in a way which doesn't go against the ways of our deen.
Demesne, I completely get what you're saying :) but tolerance and acceptance are two different things. I will NEVER be okay with same sex marriages, it's one of the main reasons why I even bother to vote. Even though their life choices are blasphemous, Islam doesn't say anything about shunning these people out completely and treating them badly when they have done nothing to harm us.
Unless they're murderers, rapists, thieves, liars, cheaters or hurt someone emotionally/physically I wouldn't give myself the right to judge them.
I didn't read all the comments but I've grappled with similar issues in the past. Some of my good friends are gay because they're genuinely nice people and they've always been more than supportive about me praying / not wanting to go to bars and clubs and have been extremelyyyy accepting and openminded. At the end of the day, what they do is between them and God. They're choices regarding sexual orientation don't effect me personally; if I was to discriminate against them then I would also have to stop being friends with anyone that commits Zinna , etc.
Re: An invitation I don’t quite know if I should turn down…
I didn’t say you did…(but you’ve been giving likes to those posts…lol)
I don’t think we do EVERYTHING to represent Islam, at least I don’t and I’d be honest about it. I just don’t agree with a comment that said “go to the wedding to portray muslims’ image in good light”. For some you’d be representing Islam in a good way, for some you won’t be.
Some scenes just aren’t suitable for hijabis like exotic beaches and bars.
And this whole idea of “oh we can wear hijab and dance at the same time” is so screwed up.
errrr…yeah okay. So you think attending a gay wedding is not going against the ways of our deen?
Re: An invitation I don’t quite know if I should turn down…
What’s wrong with a hijabi going to the beach?
I don’t think being or not being a hijabi really matters in attending a gay marriage. It’s a wedding. People are going to look at the gay couple, not the hijabi or the Muslim or the atheist or the whatever in the crowd.
Re: An invitation I don't quite know if I should turn down...
Anyway, I don't wanna say anything that might hurt your feelings so just listen to your heart, do what your heart says. May be you're afraid to hurt the gay's heart by not showing up, if that's the case then go and ask for God's forgiveness anyway.
As for what has been said regarding “social obligations” - These are not really obligations. These are perceptions of obligations due to the intermingling and support the gay “friends” have shown you. If there is a rally where human liberty is the subject and the Muslims are standing up for it then any gay who supports that is not supporting Islam - he is supporting your civil liberty … this does not translate as you supporting his marriage which is a personal affair but also you send a message that Muslims in general will support homosexuality if they support us as people. We can barter in trade but not in our principles.
Rather many people have agendas to make themselves more acceptable to others by doing certain things - a bit of give and take.
Here is my honest opinion … Go … give a token gesture, and leave straight away - you showed up but did not stick around … arrive late so you miss the ceremony - “I mean do you want to see gays kiss?”
This is my advice to show your support but also demonstrate your Islamic values …
P.S. If you do stick around longer you will see people drinking, getting drunk, people will speak to you about Islam and you’ll probably feel a bit icky anyway … deep down inside as a Muslim who love pure things and who dislikes impure things I’m sure you really have a part of you that repels this - this is why you have asked this question … follow that voice it is guiding you!
Re: An invitation I don't quite know if I should turn down...
Is it a wedding or a civil union? Their ceremony might be inspired by religion but may not be religious in nature.
That aside, I agree with whoever said to just do what feels right to you. Only you know how you really feel about gay marriage and going there for a little bit to support your friend is not going to damn you.