An eye opener to pathetic status of indian muslims...

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I dont believe in opression. Can you now imagine, what I stand for? Pak is a puppet regime and who said I was ok with it? We, the Pakistani majority are longing for democracy. Just to let you know.

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Salam,

You are supporting OBL, take a break there is something really wrong with you. His tactics and ideology is a good fit for him and no where near the Quran. Injustice to the muslim world **** injustice we muslims want to live in a comfort zone instead of analyzing our follies we are more concerned about what the world talks about us.

Its just sheer ignorance, and injustice great now i wanna know we have 57 muslim countries according to OIC and i wanna know the GDP for it there is no injustice here, where are we hanging around and talking for justice its just a strawman.

Let us get our bearings right, pull up our socks and look into reality we dont have the mettle to challenge the world let accept it unless we can, but as of now withing 57 islamic countries itself there is so much of injustice and instead of washing our own arse we are interested in washing others arse.

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B'lore is far far away from Ahmedabad,dude.

Sabar Mati Express enters Karnataka after Gujrat????? well, what happened to all the states in between them????? vanished by OBL's bombs???

these all indicates your lack of general knowledge.
post karne se pahle thora home-work kar lena.

No, Godhra is a dark mark on the history of India. Indians are accepeting it, but you you have accepted it if it happened in Pak??

Nor has Modi recieved any admiration from Indians. Indians those who are not in his screwed up party.

Dear, both Hindu and Muslim ppl were killed. Muslims were not the only sufferers.

What you meant by quoting from that fabuolous patrotic song??

Bhagat Singh is NOT a God. he was a great personality.ppl even now get inspired by him. yes, he died for his "Bharat Mata". whats wrong for that?? didnt ppl died for independing Pak from British rule too??? even your Govt. is making/made some memorial in his memory in his village, which is supposedly in Pak.
how do you justify that the whole of India can be sacrifised for a grain of sand of Mecca/Medina????? looks like itz you who is worshipping that grain of sand. and sand is only what you can find there.

What about those lakhs and lakhs of Hindu,Sikhs and Jains who were killed and converted forcibly by Muslim invaders from time immemorial???? more than half of Pakistan's population is the decents of those converted by force,dear.yeah, you cannot change reality.

You know what your problem is?? itz that you are part of those Pakistani sheep, who were made to swallow anti-Hindu/India feelings even before you could say "Maa". you cant accepet that Muslims are not 3rd grade citizens in India, even after an Indian Muslim said he faced no problems, and he is proud to be an Indian. if any Muslim says he is proud to be an Indian, then itz pure filmi-giri,innit?
What about those Hindu,Sikhs,Parsis and Christians in Pakistan??? i cant really see any of them shining in the Pakistani Horizon.
Neither Hindu nor Muslim history is flawless. accept it.

i think this one post says it all. why extend all these rubbish discussion.

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I personally feel people have to understand an American muslim when watching a football match between Saudi vs America is mostly going to support America why would he support Saudi, its ofcurse the same with most of the Muslims in India.

Ok let me agree at one point of time muslims are struggling in India, just for a discussion and can any one please let me know which Muslim country is come ahead and supported us, none.
Which muslim country is come ahead and given the Muslims the much needed money to perform hajj none, but govt of India provides us with subsidy.
Tell me which muslim country is come ahead and provided the muslims in india scholarship for education or even free education none but India provides this (not only muslims but to all other religions too)
Tell me people talk about the sad state of muslims in india, who is come up and supported us, which country has stood up.
Talk about my own hindu friends they used to literally push me and tell me go and perform ur prayers, why shud he be bothered if i dont pray but yes they did.

Talk about hindu friends when i used to drink alcohol my hindu friends used to tell dont drink its not allowed in ur religion why would he do that.

TAlk about muslims when i know its beef i first intimate my friends its beef so dont eat it, its this mutual admiration which has to continue for a peaceful india.

It will happen for sure but not unless and until we have some hatred coming up from external forces.

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Who is discriminating whom?

1.is it hindus
2.is it muslim men against muslim women
wrieter says muslim men were opposed to the women-only mosque in the village.ok then its totally becomes socio-religious problem with in the community.

Secondly she says her father’s very close hindu friend just out of blue told him to leave to pak.wat ticked her father’s friendthat he came out with such words.her uncles living standards deteriorated coz car paint was peeled and buildings’ walls were stained is it only coz his business was blacklabeled by hindus or is it something like he suffered huge losses?or just hindus are made sacpegoat as always for every muslim wrongs?

writer is a great feminist,and activist in the Muslim reform and Islamic feminist movements.
And pertaining to which most of her own views like
:Traditional Muslims often note her lack of involvement with Islamic practice or the Muslim community prior to 2002 , her open admissions of a liberal sexual life outside of marriage as documented in her first book, her having a child out-of-wedlock, and her use of the hijab (which she does not normally wear).

every thing about writer u can find here: Asra Nomani - Wikipedia

PS:And im sure even hard core islamist like divine-light will sscond her views on islam :slight_smile:

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Believe me we have lotsa Indian muslims in our neighbourhood who wished they had an Indiastan land!

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world bank says there r 700 million indians below poverty line and mind it they r not all muslims.did they all become terrorist?then y only muslims if underprivileged will become terrorist.should the indian govt. or indian people take such a thought as blackmail that if muslims r underprivileged then they become terrorist so there can be other religion underprivileged but not muslims.

and for all those who r gloating here for muslim coz india has universities only for muslims do ur country has such things right from aligar to deep south chennai hyderabad.

and one more thing we r proud of indian muslims.u can find arab ,pakistani indonasian almost all muslim country terrorist ever heard any news about indian muslim terrorist except for that glasgow bombing conspiracy(which i say guy was misguided in london mosque,otherwise he is from very respectable and well to do family from bangalore.i think slaveofallah can second that for me coz he is from bangalore.).

one more thing if being underpervilleged is reason for being terrorist then osama bin laden should not have become one most of arabs shouldnt become terrorist as they ve oil money.

yes social inequality is reason for social unrest but not that u pick up arms and go on killing spree.

and there is no denying that india has social inequality but classifying it as religious one is totally wrong.

Aaj Kiss Baat Par Gussa Aaya ??????
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What about the love thing that happens alot in India between muslims and Hindus?...Iv seen it on star news almost every other day!...Hindu boy runs off with muslim girl or vice versa...evetually both of them or one of them is murdered, where is the peace in that?..then id say theres no fun for muslims in India is there. Your friends might be like one in a million, because for sure most Indians aren't like that, my best friend is Sikh and persuades me to go against my Islamic teaching, why isn't she like your friends?..

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No India is not a sand of grain that can be sacrificed for macca and madina.Likes of those who think ur way have been given their own country to sacrifices it for macca and madina way back in 1947 and yes they r doing good in sacrificing it today.Anybody who thinks india that they will get india on platter then forget it and bemoan in ur dreams and brace urself for 1000 years of war or till qayamat as ur leaders say.coz india is not that 1000 year old india now.

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I think u r indicating here about kolkata rizwan case.He married a rich hindu girl and then was found murdered on railway tracks.obviously both religion and ofcourse the class difference is major factor here.coz girls father is filthy rich and this guy was poor.u ve noticed only that a muslim guy was murdered but did u notice the support for his case came from his college.students burning candels in kolkata for his cause obviously not all r muslims?then Joyti basu the strong man of west bengal stood foir him for CBI enquiry.how can u say there is no fun for muslims in india.shahrurk khan married hindu girl was he murdered.ritik roshan murdered muslim girl was he mudered.Abdullah's(Ex-Cm of Jand K ) daughter married rajesh pilot's son was they murdered.Thats another matter that he threw his daughter out.ok these were all high profile marriages.there r marriages shown on tv news from hindu families where both guy and girl ran away and married now were threatened by girls family.if i see that way then in hindu india there is no fun for hindus too.so dear its not only muslim thing that musilms r murdered coz he married hindu girl.its the class thing rich and poor class

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there r many mohallas in old delhi in and around jama masjid and in hyderabad in and around lakri ka pull and charminar area openly clamouring to merge with pakistan.does that change reality.they ve dreams so let have them.who really gives damn about all this.

and there are also people like cpi(m)openly clamouring for china they want to paint it red.they have dreams too let them have it but they too know that they will never be on delhi.

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PLEASE lets not compare the first class families since none of these highly glamorous actors/actresses give a penut about their religon anyway.

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only first class marriages comes into media otherwise not so i mentioned.rizwan's case came to media cause he was murdered.if he was not murdered than how can u say that muslim married hindu girl.well that means there r many 2nd class inter marriage couples who r living happiliy.so it negates ur saying that muslims dont ve fun in india.And dont try to paint everything religiouly and dont look everything from religious glass.

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And This what happens in india if something progressive is done

http://www.dailypioneer.com/columnist1.asp?main_variable=Columnist&file_name=surya%2Fsurya43.txt&writer=surya

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Look, my experience about muslims in India is very different. The poverty, the illiteracy and the crime amongst muslims is no different than it is for anyother community. This is my personal experience after spending 30 years in India - the South and the West.

In the South I personally have visited village after and village and town after town where muslims bought up lands and homes and became very prosperous - I am not talking about a handful of people, I am saying whole bunch of communities. So don’t give me any of this nonsense (not your fault personally) about somehow there is some evil force working in India suppressing muslim progress. Simply not true.

Things like statements by politicians, committees such as sachar are at least in major parts instruments of politics to gain votes. Plain and simple. Political parties pander to many communities and muslims are one of them.

I also know and have walked the lanes of many a muslim hamlets of bhindipazaar and dharavi in Mumbai. If we return after several years in the west to most parts of middle-class mumbai, the environment will look very poor, dirty and hopeless. Because whole of Mumbai with some exceptions is made up of dirty humid crowded surroundings.

I have no problem in anyone trying to help anyone else by writing about them but it is simply foolish to come to conclusions based on erroneous data and invalid analysis.

Fact is muslims are happier safer and better integrated in India than almost any other country and it doesn’t matter a bit what outsiders and ill-agenda driven mischief-mongers say

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may be if your heart is in the right place your friends will reciprocate too.

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The problem is that many in Pakistan look at justifying creation of Pakistan by pointing out at the alleged atrocities on Muslims in India.
Plz dont spoil their imagination

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^^ oh sorry in that case i retreat and take back my words.:)

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Have you ever thought about the other way round, have you never so its from both the sides and this is not common. See my friends might be one in a million and i will put it across people who go on a murder spree are one in a million.
I hope you could visit india once and then you will know it, there is not use basing your intuition, here say even without analyzing things and experience things

Please welcome LiPpy as RKS mod
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^ obviously tililuk is confusing cinema and news....happens when viewing stolen cable