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[Madhanee]

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LC.. Have you ever been to Fatima Church? My basement looks Chruchier than that. I have been to Fatiam Church.

The one in diplomatic enclave also looks like Home Depot. St. Thomas is 200 year old.

[Pinstripe_Danda]

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^ is that a church or a spaceship fo rmoonies?

[lunaticCalm]

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madny, yes i have been to the fatima church and beleive me its bigger than my local sector mosque, which isnt small by any strech of imagination.

[Madhanee]

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Maddie... nice photos, but sweetie pie, read the history of the Chruches... the new building built in 1979 doesnt mean jack. It's been there before Islamabad existed. Prove to me one more time that this was a totally new plan.

What is the newest Church built in Faisalabad? Considering that Faisalabad in the HQ of Pakistani Christians.

[suroor_ca02]

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@Fraudz

I was going to say aomething about the intelligence level of people opposing this mosque but then after reading the quotes (bolded for your reading convenience) i dont think I need to say it

But, I kind of see a bigger need in that area than a mosque, maybe a remedial school

http://www.newschannel9.com/engine.pl?station=wtvc&id=1045&template=breakout_story1.shtml&dateformat=%25M+%25e,%25Y

A building proposal for an Islamic mosque is stirring up heated debate in Whitfield County, Georgia.
The Planning and Zoning Commission held a public hearing Monday night.
The Dalton Islamic Center has been in town since 1992, and it wants to expand from its current location on McAfee Street to an available tract of land on Dug Gap Road.
But many residents don’t want the mosque in their neighborhood, and they came out in droves to let the county leaders know.
**“We just believe we shouldn’t have it in our community. Kids get involved in it, get off worse in things than what they are now,” **said Ray Hobbs, Whitfield County resident. **“We believe in the Bible, 100% in the church. We believe that God didn’t ordain that.” **
People packed the Whitfield County Courthouse, many concerned, even frightened, by the Dalton Islamic Center’s plans to expand.
**“When I lay down to bed at night, I don’t wanna think about being blown up,” said LaQuita Brewster. **
According to the Islamic center, its outgrown its McAfee Street facility, and it’s found an 11-acre track of land on Dug Gap Road where it can build a larger community mosque.
LaQuita Brewster often visits family on that road and says the idea of an Islamic center next door is unsettling.
**“Look what they done at 9-11, and that bothers me. That she’s going to be on a road with that, it upsets me. I mean, we don’t know what they’re going to do,” said Brewster. **
“We, in the past since 1992, have never been involved in any illicit activities,” DIC spokesperson Tipu Keen told the board. “We respect the laws of the lands, and we are a peaceful and friendly congregation.”
Muslim supporters said they practice their religion with the same goal as other religions like Christianity.
“To be a good person, to be a good citizen, to help your neighbors regardless of their background or their beliefs or anything,” explained Aaduyl Hamidi.
Still, some Dalton residents were not convinced.
**“I believe in freedom of religion, freedom of speech, but when you teach hate in the community… you see in the news everyday what the Islams do… we just don’t believe in it,” said Hobbs. **
“We believe differently than a lot of you, but that doesn’t mean that we dislike you or that you should dislike us,” argued Keen.
The Planning and Zoning Commission voted Monday night to approve the building site request, but the Board of Commissioners have the final say.
They will vote on the measure at a later date in May.

hmm.. perhaps the existing mosque of that community can have programs that include activities with the non-muslims just to educate them what really goes on in the mosque.
second, pakistan n other countries were found on the basis of religion. while US/ canada are immigrant countries. there is a huge difference between the two. in the latter, ppl are more diverce in terms of race, religion and culture. n thats what makes them unique and hence there is more tolerance there than in any other countires in the world. thats why ppl come here, to live in peace n practice whatever religion they want freely. which is not possible in the countries like pakistan or saudi ( sad but true).

[_Zaalim]

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The Dalton Islamic Center has been in town since 1992, and it wants to expand from its current location on McAfee Street to an available tract of land on Dug Gap Road.
But many residents don't want the mosque in their neighborhood, and they came out in droves to let the county leaders know. <<

There is some important context information in the above lines of this story. An Islamic Center has already been in existence in that town for a number of years and the objection is not against the construction of a new mosque -- rather its chosen location. Granted the basis of their apprehension is ill-informed and somewhat reprehensible, technically the situation is no different from residents objecting to opening of a new business in their neighbourhood. Maybe the sponsors of this mosque can generate some (much needed) goodwill by relocating to another place.

[Zakk]

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Thanks for the invite P Diddy..I'll give you a shout beforehand ..Sheikh Saab it's ok to admit you've lost..we all won't think any less of you..

[lunaticCalm]

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madny, i think thats enuf embarasment for today. having lived in fsd for a good 10 yrs, you dont want me to get started on that. after that u'll ask about church history in lala musa....geez

[Ohioguy]

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Ya’all go have a word with the rest of the Ummah now ya hear?

SAUDI ARABIA STARTS DEPORTING EXPATRIATE CHRISTIAN PRISONERS
First of Released Christians Arrive in Manila, Amsterdam
by Barbara G. Baker

ISTANBUL, July 14 (Compass) – Five of some 20 expatriate Christians arrested in Riyadh last month were deported by the Saudi Arabian government to their home countries today. Four Filipinos and a Dutch national were believed to have been expelled for involvement in Christian activities, which are strictly forbidden in the Muslim kingdom.

At least eight other Filipinos arrested in the police crackdown on suspected Christian worshippers have reportedly been transferred out of detention cells, in preparation for their imminent deportation later this week.

Riyadh sources also confirmed that Saudi authorities had promised to return the confiscated passport of Yolanda Aguilar, enabling the young mother to apply for an exit visa to return with her month-old baby daughter to the Philippines. After Aguilar’s husband Rufino fled Saudi Arabia on June 11 to avoid arrest, his nine-month pregnant wife was detained and interrogated by Saudi police several times. She has remained under semi-house arrest at the hospital compound where she gave birth.

Filipino Christians Ariel Ordona, Angelito Hizon, Ruben Aguirre and Gali Afurong arrived shortly before noon today in Manila on a direct Saudia Air flight. They were met by relatives and members of their home churches.

According to a church leader who talked personally with three of the four men, all the prisoners had been surprised when they were told suddenly that they were being released and deported without a formal trial. The released Christians said they expected more of the former prisoners to arrive on the next flight to Manila from Riyadh tomorrow.

“Only one of the men I talked with was harmed physically while under arrest,” the church leader said.

From Holland, Dirk den Hertog confirmed that his brother Wim den Hertog arrived early Tuesday morning on a direct flight from Riyadh to Amsterdam’s Schiphol Airport. The 35-year-old Dutch businessman was reunited with his wife and three children 31 days after his arrest. During his detention he was held incommunicado from any diplomatic access. His family was eventually allowed to speak with him three times by telephone.

“We have not been informed officially about the charges, nor were we given any access to visit him while he was in prison,” spokesperson Bridget Tazelaar confirmed from the Dutch Foreign Ministry in The Hague today.

“According to (Wim den Hertog),” Tazelaar told Compass, “he is not allowed to go back. But I cannot confirm that.”

A Dutch friend who spoke with den Hertog today told Compass that he said he had been treated well. “Every day he got vegetables and all kinds of fruit, and he didn’t have any physical abuse, only psychological pressure,” the source said. Contrary to earlier reports that the Dutch citizen had been arrested by the “muttawa” (religious police), den Hertog stated that his case had been handled by the Ministry of Interior.

The Dutch Christian said he was kept in solitary confinement for the first two days, and questioned for many hours during the initial 17 days of his detention. “But he told me that last weekend there came a sudden change in the attitudes of people who were handling his case,” the source told Compass. After his transfer to another cell, he said one inmate tried to convert him to Islam so he could “preach Islam in the Netherlands.”

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[Madhanee]

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Come On Lun, show us some Churches of FSD. New Ones. Not the old ones. Did you know that a law in Pakistan was passed during Zia that for muslim to convert to other religions was a crime punishable by death.

[suroor_ca02]

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OG: what they did was obviously not right, but they are not an immigrant country either. not that it justifies their actions because islamically they are not suppose to do that but then again they are arabs. hence they are idiots. why would any country want to stoop to their level though?

[MiniMe]

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Sir ji have you seen the Fatimah Church F-8/4 Islamabad. I think it was built in 1974.

So can I also be in the queue ....for matsui's ...

[_Zaalim]

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@Ohioguy

Ya’all go have a word with the rest of the Ummah now ya hear?

Saudi Arabia has no qualms about being labelled as a theocracy. Seems like the Christers down south are itching to join the club.

[Zakk]

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OG the fact that you neo cons have started comparing Saudi with Amrika does show how far you guys have fallen lol..it used to be look at us America is the best..now it's look at us we're better then Saudi Arabia ( in Saudi for your information certain Muslim sects are equally trashed)

Btw has anyone brought up the fact that whereas in the US Muslims are a fast growing community..in Pakistan they are in decline?

[Pinstripe_Danda]

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Minime Bhaijaan, I only have one ass. Pick a date..

[Madhanee]

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Minime Bhaijan, read this… Pakistan's Christians fear backlash - CSMonitor.com

Bhaijan, the new building was built on top of the old one that existed for over a 100 years. Did you know why is it called Fatima church? Answer this for Matsui’s with extra masala.

:jhanda:

[mAd_ScIeNtIsT]

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@Madhanee

Maddie… nice photos, but sweetie pie, read the history of the Chruches… the new building built in 1979 doesnt mean jack. It’s been there before Islamabad existed. Prove to me one more time that this was a totally new plan.

What is the newest Church built in Faisalabad? Considering that Faisalabad in the HQ of Pakistani Christians.

Haha… you keep changing what you ask for. Just get your friends’ asses ready and it’ll all be good.

[Madhanee]

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Maddie..are you accusing me of moving too much? You want me to stand still?

[Ohioguy]

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suroor,

People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

I certainly do not want to stoop to the the level of SA, I believe in freedom of religion. But fair is fair. If the Islamic worshipers in Georgia are serious about religious rights, then they ought to be protesting at the Saudi Embassy. I find a great deal of hypocracy behind the concept of "Islamic Republic", and Islamic laws on one hand, and demands for freedom of speech, and the right to assemble and worship on the other. When your house is in order (Islam) then you may demand equality.

What I am protesting here is one set of standards expected by Westernized Muslims, and a complete blind eye to treatment of minority sects in Muslim lands.

[Pinstripe_Danda]

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Og you are clearly in the wrong here. Trying to equate the muslim world to America is like trying to compare a paper airplane to the Dreamliner when it comes to freedoms and tolerance that americans enjoy.

The chuch in georgia is a great thing. Look at how progressive the muslims are becoming by coming to America. They are even getting rid of silly anachronistic tenets such as male-only imams. If only the catholics can be so progressive. It could never happen in a sihthole like arabia.