Americans in Athens

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Am I the only one, who thinks that some decisions of the responsible officials at the Olympics are really fishy?

** Men´s 200m Backstroke - Swimming: **

Aaron Piersol (USA) gets disqualified after finishing the 200m final on 1st position. However a few minutes later, he is awarded with the gold medal. The FINA (International Swimming Association) announces the following statement later:

“The DSQ of the swimmer in lane 4, PIERSOL Aaron (USA), was not accepted due to the detail of the reason supplied by the official being inadequate and not in the working language of FINA.”

The “working language” of FINA is English, while the report by the referee was supplied in French. And only because of that, Piersol got the Gold medal, ALTHOUGH he broke the rules and the disqualification would have been justified.

** Men Individual All-Around - Gymnastics: **

Paul Hamm (USA) wins the Gold medal by a very narrow margin. The South Korean Team files an appeal against the decision of the judges who unfairly reduced the points of Yang Tae-Young (KOR) by a tenth of a point.

The 0.100 points deducted from Yang’s start value in parallel bars – the difficulty of the routine – was the difference between third and first. Without the mistake, Yang would have won gold, Hamm silver and Kim bronze.

The International Gymnastics Federation then ruled that the reduction really was made unfairly. The federation suspended three judges, but it said the results will not be changed. So Hamm remains the Gold medalist and Young only gets Bronze.

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Its really fishy .. I think 1. ) had it been some other country on the first position and americans second, they would have disqualified the sportsman in favor of the American, I am sure of this! Big politics.

Next time I am boycotting the Olympics if such unfairness happens, sports have to be fair.

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I think atleast in Gymnastics, they are now considering a joint gold medal. Unfair: yes. Better than Bronze for the Korean: definitely.

I agree though, that the subjective scoring in many events is tilted.

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Re: Americans in Athens

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*Originally posted by Umer: *
Am I the only one, who thinks that some decisions of the responsible officials at the Olympics are really fishy?

** Men´s 200m Backstroke - Swimming: **

Aaron Piersol (USA) gets disqualified after finishing the 200m final on 1st position. However a few minutes later, he is awarded with the gold medal. The FINA (International Swimming Association) announces the following statement later:

"The DSQ of the swimmer in lane 4, PIERSOL Aaron (USA), was not accepted due to the detail of the reason supplied by the official being inadequate and not in the working language of FINA."

The "working language" of FINA is English, while the report by the referee was supplied in French. And only because of that, Piersol got the Gold medal, ALTHOUGH he broke the rules and the disqualification would have been justified.

** Men Individual All-Around - Gymnastics: **

Paul Hamm (USA) wins the Gold medal by a very narrow margin. The South Korean Team files an appeal against the decision of the judges who unfairly reduced the points of Yang Tae-Young (KOR) by a tenth of a point.

The 0.100 points deducted from Yang's start value in parallel bars -- the difficulty of the routine -- was the difference between third and first. Without the mistake, Yang would have won gold, Hamm silver and Kim bronze.

The International Gymnastics Federation then ruled that the reduction really was made unfairly. The federation suspended three judges, but it said the results will not be changed. So Hamm remains the Gold medalist and Young only gets Bronze.
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well the call against Aaron Piersol (USA) was simply a bul****.....come on, you know that too.....the guy was simply awesome and he beated everyone else by a big margin...the action replay no where indicated that he committed any foul...

korean turned out to be unlucky though paul haam was simply perfect in last two rounds.....still korean deserved the gold medal based on points...

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it's fishy because an American involved in this? LOL - i don't have a comment on Aaron but i am going to repeat what i heard by a gymnast expert on TV yesturday because he said it best.

He said the competition has to be over at one point - You could sit here for months going over everyone route and finding mistakes - Just as the athletes are human the judges are human as well -- the guy supposedly had a 10 start value and he was given a 9.9 - but he also said China made some mistakes before in the competition that could have caused deductions in points.

Really it is over - Paul Hamm won fare and square. This is nothing like it was when the Canadian par lost in skating in the Winter Olympics - this is gymnastics - and if you wanted to find all of the mistakes you could easily do that.

The judges said Paul Hamm won so he did - until there is better proof that he didn't he will keep that gold medal.

If someone knew what they were looking for - they could go through the other gymnasts routen and find mistakes - and say so and so should have not go this or that - But come on, as he says, the competition as to end at some point.

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:k: :k:

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So if the gymnastics judges say that Paul Hamm wins gold, he gets the gold medal although he does not deserve it.

And if a swimming referee says that Aaron Piersol has to be disqualified, that decision is overruled.

Don´t you see anything fishy here? :konfused:

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Gymnasitcs and Swimming are two different sports - if Swimming officials disqualified Aaron - so be it - but according to the rules of Gymnastics - once judge made the decision - it can’t be over rule - that is what happen - people need to understand this - and move on…

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Games have to be over at some point???
Any one remember Salt Lake 2002??
That Canadian skating pair got the gold after several days. I was happy about the cuz they clearly deserved the gold but IOC has to drop the doulbe standards. And also remeber that Apollo Ono guy (i think tht was his name) in speed skating?? he got the gold when actually the korean skater did nothing wrong. The games didn't have to end at some point then. I also heard about a Candian diver, not pretty sure tho, who got gold after 18 months of the olympics (back in 88' i think).

BTW, i think that all the sports involving judges should be rehauled and they shud come up with a new system. Most of the judges are bribed by the americans (clearly evident). Like in gymnastics, High bar finals, that russian guy was clearly the winner compared to paul hamm but the score that he got was completly criminal. The crowd didn't like it one bit and booed for about 10 mins. They shudn't have stopped IMO.

Edit: Aaron Piersol decision was fair since tht was a minor mistake. but the irony is tht he was the guy who was calling the japense swimmer a cheater and stuff in front of everyone. Thts wht i call Karma.

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You forgot to add the following paragraph:

But if that decision is in favour of a Russian, Korean or any other Non-American it can be overruled without any problem. :rolleyes:

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haha - good ol American hatred.

doesn't the IOC feel shame a lil bit? they put Hamm on the spot to return the gold while the judges screwed up every thing - Go ahead - have everyone hate him - He won the gold medal....everyone just has to live with it.

Canadian skating is a different issue than this one - in that case corruption was involved - while here judges made the mistake..

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I dont hate paul hamm. Just hate damn judges who can be bought so easily. Paul hamm did fine considering he was under such enormous pressure.

“Canadian skating is a different issue than this one - in that case corruption was involved - while here judges made the mistake..”

Yeah… mistake :rolleyes:

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:rotfl:

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whats so funny about that Umer? i must have missed the humor.

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:rotfl: You really believe that it was a “mistake”? :hehe:

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yes i do - but if it wasn't then what it was? i have not heard Paul Hamm threatening to IOC.