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No leader of a Muslim country will respond to this, issue a statement in support of the Japanese and the Koreans, or provide any type of denouncement at all.
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Oh boo hoo. No Christian/Secular country ever condemns the systematic killings of civilians in Vietnam, South America, Iraq, etc.
Mods troops weren't taken hostage Aid Workers were, switch the thread title.
OG
I have not seen any condemntation of this act at this time by any country other than those who are directly involved in this situation right now. The fact that I have not seen it does not mean others have not denounced it or will not denounce it.
Earlier there was an attack in Pakistan where cops were executed by attackers, I dont recall many countries denouncing that act, muslim countries or otherwise. maybe they looked at it as it was not their business and was a domestic challenge.
I dont expect the leaders of any muslim country to sleep with a microphone on standby so they can instantly issue statements condemning attacks by any johnny come lately rag tag group with something to do with Islam in their name.
For all intents and purposes, this is a matter related to Iraqi War and those who are not participants in the war dont have to say anything for or against anything that goes on there. Whether someone calls themsleves Mahdi army or snoop dogg batallion
The problem with the lack of condemnation is the OVERWHELMING response to any Israeli action against the helpless Palestinians or instant condemnation and street demonstrations against America for its policies/actions that affect Muslims. If these types of actions are not condemned by moderates then non-Muslims only receive the message that they are condoned by the Muslim world at large.
Here are the "troops" folks:
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I don’t know why you guys are looking for condemnation. remember Hamas and I Jihad are heroes and using the name of the prophet as in JeM is ok, so what if an infidel like Musharaff bans it. Hiding in mosques is an accepted practice..but don’t you dare go in with your shoes on. :nono:
Seminole, so go ask people. just because I dont see every pro athelete condeming Jayson Williams does not mean that they support crime.
who listens to moderates anyways? they do not provide any spice to the story. heck no one has ever asked me, and none of my letters to the editor ever got published :)
So dunking a basketball is the same as the projected muslim unity, one nation, people..that kind of thing, correct?
^ No, but then you knew it already.
Unfortunately most Americans (at least here in the south) don't know any Muslims personally to ask their opinion. If Muslims were busy peace-keeping, aid-giving, peace-preaching, educating, democracizing, whatever, would we have more to judge by. Unfortunately the only vocal advocates of Islam currently are the ones killing and preaching hatred. I'm not saying it's all they are doing but if there is concern for their reputation, motives or piety there should be more pro-active moderates dencouncing this crap. As bad as the US actions may or may not be they are plenty of Americans criticizing them.
Seminole, you are from the south? 
So you do understand how things are in teh thirdworld. :k:
We are a hiiiiighly cultured society, thank y’all very much.
seminole
just as you dont hear about muslims criticizing idiotic actions done by groups who use religion as some excuse, people in other countries dont hear much about americans criticizing the actions of their elected/selected leaders.
Semi from the south...suppose that explains the poor typing skills, that sixth finger on each hand really gets in the way huh.
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people in other countries dont hear much about americans criticizing the actions of their elected/selected leaders.
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Then they aren't listening. The press, the left wing, John Kerry and every democrat out there has constantly criticized Bush, his war and his policies.
Too cool. The freedom fighters of Iraq have now kidnapped two PALESTINIANS and are accusing them of being Israeli spies. Must be time for the Hamas and Islamic Jihad freedom fighters to join the US coalition to fight against the Iraqi freedom fighters. Pretty soon, the only fighters left in Iraq on both sides will be freedom fighters.
Seminole
either they are not listening, or they are not getting the coverage.
Now the same can be said about the condemnation of terrorist actions by these extremist groups. There is a lot of condemnation, but either youy are not listening, or teh sources you have do not cover it.
I would love to see CNN or MSNBC come by my mosque on friday and talk to people, the imaam and the congregation.
Fraudz, I hope you do get someone to visit. It would be a good story. (but why did you exclude Fox? :)) Perhaps getting AlJazeera there would be better, if you go on American TV you will be preaching to the choir. Your voice is not being broadcast to International Muslims....
OG
why exclude fox? because they would twist soemthing as simple as the brand of my shoes to prove that I have some sinister intentions.
al jazeera is overhyped as some muslim world CNN, it is s shock jock type of station, kinda like fox. I have never seen al jazeera, come to think of it, I dont know anyone who watches it.
As far as coming to the mosque and talking to people, it was done by a local paper that actually interviewed me right after 9/11 and the topic was what I thought and what I thought of the after effects on muslims in US etc.
seminole, just recently a muslim woman was assaulted in a florida mall by some hateful idiots, since I have not seen widespread condemnation of it by jeb and co, should I presume that they are for it?
Crimes of that type and the type below are unacceptable, hence their label of being hate crimes which stiffen the consequences of those who do them and when these attacks do happen the majority of the time the community is outraged.
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04/08/2004 12:00 AM CDT
San Antonio Express-News
Arsonists have hit three local businesses owned by Muslims in recent weeks. All three incidents bear remarkable similarities.
Arson investigators have not discovered a link among the three fires. Without sufficient evidence or an arrest, police are reluctant to draw a conclusion about the motives of the perpetrators. The signs, however, are ominous.
After Sept. 11, 2001, the U.S. Islamic community suffered a backlash of hate. In 2001, 481 hate crimes against Muslims were reported to the FBI. In 2002, the latest year for which figures have been released, hate crimes directed at Muslims in the United States declined sharply, to 155 incidents.
No one in the United States should have to fear for their personal safety, their property or their business on account of their race, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation or disability, the factors for which the FBI attributed 7,462 hate-related incidents affecting 9,222 victims in 2002.
While it may be premature to attribute the three arsons against Muslim businesses to hate, it’s not too early for citizens, elected officials and law enforcement to express their concern to the Islamic community.
Crimes motivated by hate tear at the fabric of society. This city, marked by remarkable tolerance, must not stand for them.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/editorials/stories/MYSA08.06B.arson2ed0408.91456f2.html