Allama Iqbal and the Reconstruction of Islamic Thought

We have defined Islamic Revolutionary thought as the imperative to remove the dichotomy between Divine Revelation and state authority, or between the religious and the secular domains of human existence, and to establish the unconditional and unqualified ascendancy of the Qur´an and the Sunnah over all spheres of life, so that the Islamic System of Social Justice can be established in its totality and, as a consequence, all forms of political repression, economic exploitation, and social discrimination can be eliminated from human society. The achievement of this goal in 7th century Arabia was the greatest accomplishment of Prophet Muhammad (SAW), and it is this triumph of the Prophet which is acknowledged by historian Dr. Michael Hart in these words: “he [Prophet Muhammad] was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels.”
The Islamic System of Social Justice, as established by Prophet Muhammad (SAW), continued in its ideal form for at least 30 years after his death, and then it started to decline. Gradually, however, the ideal unity between the religious and the secular gave way, and a dichotomy appeared in the Muslim society between the political rulers and the religious leadership, and then the latter themselves got divided into the scholars of the law (ulama) and the mystics who concerned themselves mainly with the purification of the soul (sufia); in this way, the “unity” gradually degenerated into a “trinity.” The political and moral decay of the Ummah continued to worsen with each passing century. In the meantime, the development of physical sciences and technology in Europe under the influence of Renaissance and Reformation — which were themselves a result of Islamic influences reaching Central Europe through Muslim Spain — led to a power potential which resulted in the conquest of Muslim lands by the forces of Western Imperialism. The evolution of social sciences in Europe also accelerated, and French and Bolshevik revolutions gave fresh dimensions to the human thought, including the ideas of freedom, democracy, human rights, equality, and the need to eliminate all exploitation.

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…]Iqbal has expressed his abhorrence of human sovereignty, in a most subtle and perspicacious manner, in the following couplet of his masterpiece Iblees ki Majlis-e-Shura:
We ourselves have dressed Kingship in the garb of Democracy,
When man has grown to be a little self-conscious and self-observant.
In other words, Iqbal is saying that the consciousness of human rights, which prospered in Europe under the influence of Renaissance and Reformation, was essentially a positive development in the human social evolution. However, it was Satan and his agents who diverted this consciousness towards popular sovereignty, and in this way the rule of a king was replaced with the rule of the people. Both forms of political systems are equally unacceptable from the Islamic perspective, as absolute sovereignty belongs to no one but the Creator, Owner, and Ruler of the universe, Almighty Allah (SWT). The very concept of human sovereignty is a form of filth, and will remain so whether it belongs to a single Pharaoh and Caesar or whether it is distributed piecemeal to a few million citizens of a country.
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…] It is an indication of the rich and versatile personality of Allama Iqbal that, even though his main subject was metaphysics, he still had a deep interest in the comparatively dry and dreary science of economics. Iqbal was fully cognizant of the fact that, in today´s world, economic and financial matters have assumed central importance in the human society, and that man has now been reduced to Homo economicus for all practical purposes. Regarding the issue of “Capital”, Iqbal makes it clear that while Islam takes advantage of the human desire for profit and encourages investment as well as cultivates a healthy competitive environment, there is absolutely no chance whatsoever of the menace of capitalism taking root in a true Islamic society, as the very foundation of capitalism — interest or usury — has been strictly prohibited by the Qur´an. Keeping in view the references to riba in various other couplets of Iqbal, it is our humble opinion that the degree to which Iqbal recognized and expressed the immorality and vice of riba is simply non-existent in the writings of any other scholar or intellectual.
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Re: Allama Iqbal and the Reconstruction of Islamic Thought

I found this interesting
"there is absolutely no chance whatsoever of the menace of capitalism taking root in a true Islamic society, as the very foundation of capitalism — interest or usury — has been strictly prohibited by the Qur´an"

Now that Iqbal has been proven wrong..considering all muslim countries practice capitalism and capitalism has been triumphant over other pie in the sky ideologies like communism (which is a lot like Islamic economics) where do we stand?

SO you belive in the words of a guy whose basic thesis has been negated by the realities of the world. Not only what he lived in but also the future.

What's next, Atlantis?

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:slight_smile:

no muslim country at the moment represents a true islamic society. They are all in the process of either going towards Islam or leaving it altogether.

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Apparently it only existed for 30 yrs under the rule of the guy who established it. Once he died..poof..gone...no really universal now is it. . No perfect communist society existed either. You know why? because these concepts are incongruous to human behavior and makeup. It is..how you say.."not a way of life"

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Matsui: there is a reason why you are not Muslim.

Those who finds Islam a way of life, embrace it. Others just whine and run behind the world and its charms.

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^ like those living in capitalist societies collecting checks from interest bearing accounts their companies hold? :hehe:
The reason Islamic economic models fail is because they are anachronistic. Made for when Mohammad ran arabia. Likewise, Karl marx had a good idea..but he forgot that humans live on the earth. :slight_smile:

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Islamic laws are divine and universal for all times. That statement is a part of faith for a muslim.

I understand why you will feel uncomfortable with that for you are not a muslim. In order to learn swimming, you have to allow yourself to go into the water. You can not learn it by standing near the beach.

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Matsui, I will give you that no Muslim country has been able to establish the true Islamic socio economic system. However, it can be argued that the glory of the Muslim rule (long gone) was based on this ideology and worked pretty well. Now, allow me to turn the subject to a philosophical(sp?) or moral discussion.

Do you agree that by basing the economic system on interest/Riba, we as the humans have lost morality?

Mods: You can split it as a different thread if you feel that my inquiry is way off topic.

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Made for when Mohammad ran arabia
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matsui Prophet Mohammad (S.A.W) did not run arabia. He was a prophet that was sent to arabia....some of ur comments are good but ...i have realized that u have a lot of hatred for islam...and u use GS to channel ur hatred...pls quit disrespecting islam....
What some muslims (evil/wrong things) do has nothing to do with Islam as a religion....If people have flaws that doesnot mean that it is due to religion

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But they are not universal. By parroting they are universal doesn;t make them so. Putting lipstick on a pig doesn;t make it Heather Locklear.

I don't feel uncomfortable..I am disappointed that people like you are the representative dujopur off your faith on this board. I have many muslim friends and acquaintances. They don't wear their piety on their shoulder as a chip and know the difference between the message and the morass it is contained in. They are the real muslims.

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may be, once I will start following your version of hindu-islam, I will be a real muslim in your book too. But your book isn’t good enough. I know in which book I have to be a real muslim.

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I have no hatred for Islam. This is the defensive parroting that comes across whenever someone questions terms like "uiniversality" "way of life" when proiven wrong you are called anti-islam. Have you ever seen me utter "anti-hindu" on this site? Just becasue someone asks, pokes, prods, disqualifies..doesn't mean they "hate" that religion. Anyway, I couldn;t hate islam..I ama hindu. WE belive in all paths being valid.

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Fair enough Matsui. There is no harm in asking. But it defeats the purpose when you label it instead of asking. There is a difference na :)

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No kaleem the system is not based on RIBA and morality has nothing to do with RIBA. I think you mean capitalism not RIBA. Maybe AQ here can clarify for you. :hehe:

The reason no Muslim country has been able to establish an Islamic system is because it is not relevant in this day and age. It doesn’t take into account factors of globalization, advent of captial markets and ever evolving instruments and lastly human nature. Communism had the same problem. Nothing bad about it…but as theories these make good reading because it makes us thankful there is capitalism.

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Ok, let me rephrase the question for you, take out the word Riba and replace it with interest.

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he says Riba is not interest because usury is not interest. :hehe:.. read the thread about usury and Quranic perspective.

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matsui don’t use this as an excuse- i also have many hindu friends who donot have the same thoughts like u…does that mean they are the real hindus and u r not… you or any human being does not have any right to declare anyone as a real muslim…if u knew anything positive about islam u wud know that…only God has the right to decide who is a “real” muslim and who is not…
anyways, no offense man…if u mind what i said in my earlier post then i apologize

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No, capitalism is not based on interest. This is the kind of stuff I am talking about. The muslim world has been fed this crap for over a millenia now. Capitalsim is haram because it is based on interst which is RIBA which is haram Q.E.D. How can an instrument for a trnsaction be haraam, it is manner and intent which should be haram, if at all. Now God is declaring financial instuments illegal :hehe: DO you not find this odd as an educated human being?

The starting premise for the discussion is wrong.

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Homer, I am going by experience on this site for now over six years. Whenever yousay something against conventional mullah wisdom, which is usually wrong, you are deemed anti muslim. Entire PM’s are sent, death warrants issued, feedback threads openend asking for bannings because these people with teeny tiny brains can’t think outside their fundo box. Part of me wants to explain because I have made a few friends here so that they don’t brainwashed by this chutiyas..the other part of me wants to say fk U. I am nice today. :flower1:

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^
matty ur brain cells r yet too young to understand the complications of human life and then to understand how Islam is perfectly suited to humans....

interest is declared haraam not only in Quran but in earlier scriptures as well....