Yes but the issue is that people are using those words interchangeably.
hazing is not allowed, and hazing is not part of initiation.
initiation ceremony/ritual involves no hazing
Look a guy at my fraternity’s chapter in a diff state died due to alcohol poisoning. I did not drink any, none of the guys with me were forced to do anything. Remember my statement, initiation is a ritual, the same ritual that every single member has to go through.
so people do things on their own against fraternity rules, and something completely out of the initiation ritual that results in these tragedies.
wait a sec, you just said that the story about the death of a student prompted you to start the thread. so you read news of his death and the reaction you had was to go and hear about juicy stories?
wow..